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Shyatt calls it out

WyoBrandX

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“We’ve had one loss in five weeks," Shyatt said. "And I’m going to say this because I love the people of Wyoming, and I love our institution, and I love our fans, and I love our players. I can’t tell you how hurt I was when I was told some of the things said because we lost one game this month.

"I’ll be honest with you: I would have loved this team tonight if we had fallen short by a basket or two, because they have great will, they represent the right things. You know what, there’s an old expression, ‘You don’t know what you have until you don’t have it any longer.’ And shame on any of those things that I was told about.”

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Seriously, in this day and age, it has to be tough to be criticized in the media / social media / etc. Its everwhere.

I hope the Pokes keep on winning and give it some hell!
 
I like Shyatt. I think he's an awesome coach and this is a pretty darn good team. He also seems like a good person.
But when you're one of the highest paid public employees in the state, you're going to take some heat.
 
Did people really jump off the bandwagon after a loss to a team who could legitimately be in the top 25? Mustn't have lived through the Schroyer years when we couldn't buy a win.. unless it was against a culinary school.
 
I would also like to see what he is referring to? Always going to be a few knuckleheads in a fan base. I think it is best to not even acknowledge the lunatic fringe.

I haven't been able to watch much this year, but what I've seen, I really like. It is so nice to have a solid bball program back at WYO. With the limitations of our Athletic Department, it is a real testament of the ability and commitment from these young men and all the coaches. I can't fathom why anyone would criticize them too much (other than the normal "we need to protect the ball" or "rebound better" or something of that nature).
 
Well something pissed Shyatt off but maybe he's making a bigger deal out of it to fire up his team and our fanbase. These dudes are being slept on by the people of Wyoming for sure. I also understand why people were pissed after that loss though. We got beat at home against a rival right after being ranked in the top 25 ap for the first time in forever. That's the kinda loss that just fucking stings our fanbase a littler harder then usual. A fanbase that is used to being stung and is looking for that major breakthrough ya know what I mean?

I was critical of us getting killed on the boards because I'm sick of SDSU out rebounding us for more then a decade. I believe that has something to do with us not getting our big man situation as up to snuff as I'd like it. I do however recognize that Shyatt and his staff have done a monster job at Wyo. This year is a dream season so far and might get elevated to levels previously thought unattainable. We should all just be happier I guess huh? :D :D :D
 
BeaverPoke said:
On here and gowyogo everyone seems to deny ever saying anything bad or mean lol
The positive talk farrrrr outweighs the negative talk on here. If the coaches or players want to feel good they should just visit this forum.
 
LanderPoke said:
BeaverPoke said:
On here and gowyogo everyone seems to deny ever saying anything bad or mean lol
The positive talk farrrrr outweighs the negative talk on here. If the coaches or players want to feel good they should just visit this forum.

I'm just sayin.. the comments are funny. "Someone said something bad about this team? Well who could possibly do something like that? Not me... nooo"
 
BeaverPoke said:
LanderPoke said:
BeaverPoke said:
On here and gowyogo everyone seems to deny ever saying anything bad or mean lol
The positive talk farrrrr outweighs the negative talk on here. If the coaches or players want to feel good they should just visit this forum.

I'm just sayin.. the comments are funny. "Someone said something bad about this team? Well who could possibly do something like that? Not me... nooo"
We just have to keep the puppet guy from posting.
 
I realize that Wyo is dong great this year and I am extremely happy about that. However, here is what drives me crazy about Poppa Shy's teams. They will play every possession right down to the end of the shot clock. That in itself is not a huge deal but when you have player like Larry Nance and you play the first 25 seconds of every possession with NO low post it really limits your opportunities. There have been many times when we passed up good shots, because it is early in the shot clock, only to force up a bad shot just to get one off late. I can't understand why you wouldn't play the whole shot clock and take the first great shot that you get rather than hoping to get a mediocre shot off late. I hope our success continues but I think this issue will bite us in the butt eventually.
 
Don't let statistics get in the way, but we are number 9 in the country in field goal percentage, and that is with a big slump in our three point production. This doesn't indicate a propensity to take a lot of wild, last second shots. More often, we take the first "good" shot, be it a dunk, or a wide open 3. Don't confuse patience with stalling.

If we start hitting some "3s", we will be unbeatable.

WW
 
WilyWapiti said:
Don't let statistics get in the way, but we are number 9 in the country in field goal percentage, and that is with a big slump in our three point production. This doesn't indicate a propensity to take a lot of wild, last second shots. More often, we take the first "good" shot, be it a dunk, or a wide open 3. Don't confuse patience with stalling.

If we start hitting some "3s", we will be unbeatable.

WW

Exactly!

Dumb people confuse the 2-3 possessions per game where we shoot with 3 seconds to go on the shot clock for "always." No, we are "always" patient with the ball and we "never" take bad shots. We "always" make the defense defend motion offense for as long as it takes to break them down. If that breakdown happens in transition, we take advantage. If it happens with 8 seconds left on the shot clock, we take advantage. If it doesn't happen, we create a shot at the end of the shot clock. That's not very often...far from "always."

How about that?
 
It is interesting to see how Shyatt's approach to fans has changed since his first time at Wyoming.

BEFORE - "love affair" "best fans ever", he went to student functions to fire them up, he reinstated the newspaper tradition during announcements and so on

TODAY - complains openly about attendance and stupid fan comments
 
His first time here he was a first-time head coach. He had just as much to prove off the court as on it.

Now he has had a few HC gigs and was an established high level assistant. Futhermore, he has improved the program to a level that he doesn't need to sugar coat everything. He has earned the right to complain about certain things when he wants. Just don't go overboard.
 
I would like to see the statistical distribution of the TO's. That is, the distribution of how far into the shot clock the TO's occur. If most of them are toward the end, then that could be an argument for setting up things sooner, because if the opponent knows you aren't going to shoot until less than say 8 seconds remain, then don't put REAL pressure till then.
 
Adv8RU12 said:
I would like to see the statistical distribution of the TO's. That is, the distribution of how far into the shot clock the TO's occur. If most of them are toward the end, then that could be an argument for setting up things sooner, because if the opponent knows you aren't going to shoot until less than say 8 seconds remain, then don't put REAL pressure till then.

From everything I have seen TO's most commonly occur when we start to get behind or during subs with low minute players on the floor. More than specific to the shot clock I think it's being comfortable knowing someone is going to be there vs being timid and passing slow bounce or lobs that get picked off.
 
Most of those two turnovers occur in two areas - low post bounce passes, and top of the key weak passes that are picked off. The top of the key passes are easy to fix. That's a loss of focus. The low post TO's a re a little harder. The more you try force feed Nance down low, you are going to give those up. I can live with those, but not the lazy ones. I'm confident Shyatt is working on those.

I watched the video and just penned a genuine, send-in-the-mail letter to Coach Shyatt. Here's what is says:

Dear Coach Shyatt,

Congratulations on a great season so far and for coming away with a tough, thrilling triple-overtime win on the road against Fresno State last Saturday!

I watched your comments online after the game, in which you immediately addressed negative comments you heard about after the disappointing loss to San Diego State last week. I understand your frustration.

I was a student at UW during the Dembo/Leckner era and lived in Laramie after school through the thrilling 2002 season with Josh Davis and Marcus Bailey. I believe you set the foundation that returned the winning tradition to Wyoming basketball that allowed Steve McClean to have those great years. For 19 years, I never missed a single home game.

I moved to Southern Colorado in 2002 and wasn’t able to attend many home games much after that. A few years later, I returned to Laramie to watch a game - to the empty arena that a mediocre basketball program creates. I couldn’t believe it. The students were mostly gone and it was like wqatching a scrimmage. I was pleased when you returned to Wyoming. I loved what you did for Wyoming basketball in 1997-1998 and I felt I knew why you were coming back. To rebuild the winning tradition, make some things right and do it the right way.

You said you were hurt by the comments after the SDSU loss. Anybody who watched the game knows that Wyoming’s turnovers, good offensive rebounding by SDSU and uncharacteristic free-throw shooting down the stretch by them resulted in Wyoming’s only conference loss. They had a good day. They are a very good team with a good coach. Your guys showed a lot of heart and almost overcame the mistakes and the good play of your opponent.

Please don’t take rude comments spoken or written in the moments after disappointment to heart. Wyoming fans want to win in the worst way – and in this case, truly the worst way. Believe me; we know what we have and how hard it is to win in this league. Social media now allows those thoughts to get broadcast in a way that was impossible the last time you coached here. It doesn’t make it right.

Coach Shyatt – Wyoming loves this team and Wyoming loves you as the coach of this team. I’ve got my tickets for Air Force on February 7th and we are planning our trip to Las Vegas for the Conference Tournament. Thank you again for recruiting guys that Wyoming can be proud of. Go Pokes!


Sincerely,

CowboyCO
 
Adv8RU12 said:
I would like to see the statistical distribution of the TO's. That is, the distribution of how far into the shot clock the TO's occur. If most of them are toward the end, then that could be an argument for setting up things sooner, because if the opponent knows you aren't going to shoot until less than say 8 seconds remain, then don't put REAL pressure till then.

Setting something up? We never even have guys standing around. There's constant motion in our offense. If Nance gets open, our guards get him the ball. We're just patient. We wait for breakdowns. That's the difference between taking air out of the ball and what we do.

Our offense is a breath of fresh air to me. Especially compared to Steve McClain offenses. Those were the worst things ever. We just luckily had a couple players that could create shots for themselves. Nobody would ever move. We would just pass the ball from one side to the other, hoping that Uche or Davis could get post position. If they couldn't, Bailey would see what he could do, or Straight would try to penetrate and create.
 

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