Should cut blocks be illegal? [Wolken]

[MrTitleist]

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[fromolwyoming]

No. In my martial arts class (did far more than just karate), we would practice cut "blocks" by hitting the back of the knees (as well as many other ways of hitting low) and making people go down easily. Out of the hundreds of times I have done it and had it done to me, I have NEVER been hurt by it, have never known anyone to be hurt by it, and that's coming from someone with extensive knee problems taaking martial arts classes with several others with knee issues. You might get a little sore, maybe some bruising depending on where you get hit, but I've never been hurt by anything like it.

The issue as I see it, is when a cut block becomes a chop block, which is illegal any way. At that point injury does become a major factor.

 

[Wyovanian]

No. In my martial arts class (did far more than just karate), we would practice cut "blocks" by hitting the back of the knees (as well as many other ways of hitting low) and making people go down easily. Out of the hundreds of times I have done it and had it done to me, I have NEVER been hurt by it, have never known anyone to be hurt by it, and that's coming from someone with extensive knee problems taaking martial arts classes with several others with knee issues. You might get a little sore, maybe some bruising depending on where you get hit, but I've never been hurt by anything like it.

The issue as I see it, is when a cut block becomes a chop block, which is illegal any way. At that point injury does become a major factor.

You're quite right- when you're dealing with a controlled, rehearsed, deliberative, slow-speed situation, there's nothing dangerous about cut blocks. There's nothing dangerous about smugglers' turns either, when they're executed in wide open spaces with no one around, but at freeway speeds in traffic, it's not recommended.

The problem with cut blocks is the speed the game is played at- a player may have no intention of chop-blocking someone, but the end result of his efforts at game speed can very likely be a dangerous maneuver and an injury.

 

[fromolwyoming]

No. In my martial arts class (did far more than just karate), we would practice cut "blocks" by hitting the back of the knees (as well as many other ways of hitting low) and making people go down easily. Out of the hundreds of times I have done it and had it done to me, I have NEVER been hurt by it, have never known anyone to be hurt by it, and that's coming from someone with extensive knee problems taaking martial arts classes with several others with knee issues. You might get a little sore, maybe some bruising depending on where you get hit, but I've never been hurt by anything like it.

The issue as I see it, is when a cut block becomes a chop block, which is illegal any way. At that point injury does become a major factor.

You're quite right- when you're dealing with a controlled, rehearsed, deliberative, slow-speed situation, there's nothing dangerous about cut blocks. There's nothing dangerous about smugglers' turns either, when they're executed in wide open spaces with no one around, but at freeway speeds in traffic, it's not recommended.

The problem with cut blocks is the speed the game is played at- a player may have no intention of chop-blocking someone, but the end result of his efforts at game speed can very likely be a dangerous maneuver and an injury.

I'm not talking about it being done slowly. I'm talking full force and full speed.

 

[BackHarlowRoad]

No. In my martial arts class (did far more than just karate), we would practice cut "blocks" by hitting the back of the knees (as well as many other ways of hitting low) and making people go down easily. Out of the hundreds of times I have done it and had it done to me, I have NEVER been hurt by it, have never known anyone to be hurt by it, and that's coming from someone with extensive knee problems taaking martial arts classes with several others with knee issues. You might get a little sore, maybe some bruising depending on where you get hit, but I've never been hurt by anything like it.

The issue as I see it, is when a cut block becomes a chop block, which is illegal any way. At that point injury does become a major factor.

You're quite right- when you're dealing with a controlled, rehearsed, deliberative, slow-speed situation, there's nothing dangerous about cut blocks. There's nothing dangerous about smugglers' turns either, when they're executed in wide open spaces with no one around, but at freeway speeds in traffic, it's not recommended.

The problem with cut blocks is the speed the game is played at- a player may have no intention of chop-blocking someone, but the end result of his efforts at game speed can very likely be a dangerous maneuver and an injury.

I'm not talking about it being done slowly. I'm talking full force and full speed.

Right but you're still practicing it in a controlled 1-on-1 situation. Not with 21 large violent beings running around all around you.

I definitely don't think they should be illegal though. If that becomes illegal then tackling someone below the waist should be as well (Marcus Lattimore)

 

[fromolwyoming]

Not denying accidents (even freak accidents) happen.

 

[Wyovanian]

No. In my martial arts class (did far more than just karate), we would practice cut "blocks" by hitting the back of the knees (as well as many other ways of hitting low) and making people go down easily. Out of the hundreds of times I have done it and had it done to me, I have NEVER been hurt by it, have never known anyone to be hurt by it, and that's coming from someone with extensive knee problems taaking martial arts classes with several others with knee issues. You might get a little sore, maybe some bruising depending on where you get hit, but I've never been hurt by anything like it.

The issue as I see it, is when a cut block becomes a chop block, which is illegal any way. At that point injury does become a major factor.

You're quite right- when you're dealing with a controlled, rehearsed, deliberative, slow-speed situation, there's nothing dangerous about cut blocks. There's nothing dangerous about smugglers' turns either, when they're executed in wide open spaces with no one around, but at freeway speeds in traffic, it's not recommended.

The problem with cut blocks is the speed the game is played at- a player may have no intention of chop-blocking someone, but the end result of his efforts at game speed can very likely be a dangerous maneuver and an injury.

I'm not talking about it being done slowly. I'm talking full force and full speed.

In a controlled, static environment where people are doing nothing but cut-blocking and preparing for cut-blocking, whether full-force/ velocity or not is not a problem.

When I talk about speed, I'm talking about the overall velocity and fluidity of the environment. In a shifting, fluid scenario like you see on a line of scrimmage at the snap of a football with up to 22 people (plus officials) moving and suddenly shifting in multiple directions it becomes an issue. In the time a player goes for a perfectly safe behind the knees cut-block, his target may have shifted in any number of ways making the action dangerous by the time actual contact is made. And if he's hit high, whether intentionally or unintentionally, there's a strong mechanism for deceleration and torsional injury.