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Rocky Long leaving SDSU
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LanderPoke
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Wow. Weird.
Looks like Hoke is stepping in. I would think SDSU takes a step back as a program
Looks like Hoke is stepping in. I would think SDSU takes a step back as a program
WestWYOPoke
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Not the worst transition for SDSU, Hoke back in charge. If he can keep the success he had from his first HC stint, they will be a challenger every year.
LanderPoke
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WestWYOPoke said:
Hoke seems mediocre. He's got a career record of 78-72. He's not the coach Long is. That's for sure .
WestWYOPoke
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LanderPoke said:
True, he had 1 great season at Ball State and 1 good season at SDSU before heading to Michigan. And we all know how that turned out. Guess this will give everyone a chance to see if he is actually a good coach, or if he was an opportunist making the most out of 2 or 3 really good seasons.
LanderPoke said:
Obviously a stupid move on SUDS part letting Rocky walk like this. Keep your winning HC happy! Hoke has been there before and it's a best case scenario transition for the football program at this point in the season.
I think a lot of Hoke's success came from Rocky being the DC and mentor coach. It will be interesting to see how he does without him. I actually didn't think Hoke did a bad job at Michigan. It's a tough program to win big at with the kind of expectations on a coach. Even the mighty Harbaugh can't overcome the challenges they face.
Expat_Poke
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Cornpoke said:
Are we talking about Lloyd Carr or Brady Hoke?
11-2, 8-5, 7-6, 5-7. Hoke wasn't fired because he didn't win big (that was Carr - edit while he formally retired there was a lot of griping among the fans and boosters that may have accelerated his decision to retire), he was canned because he went to barely winning to not winning after a great first season. With Michigan's resources 7-6 and 5-7 is bad and that 5-7 team included getting manhandled by Minnesota in the big house and a loss to Rutgers.
Of course none of that means this will translate to a similar drop at San Diego State. Kind of apples and oranges.
Expat_Poke
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307bball said:
My post was referencing Carr and his likely at least partially forced retirement not Long, although they are somewhat similar situations.
ragtimejoe1
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Hoke is good enough to be successful in the MWC. This isn't the B1G.
fromolwyoming
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If it was a disagreement, that makes SDSU the second MWC school to make him walk. New Mexico obviously being the first (and seemed to have paid for it since).
fromolwyoming
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Brady Hoke has dismissed their Safeties coach, which is kind of odd considering that was a strength of theirs.
But, think Bohl goes in and brings him on? We are short a safeties coach after all.
But, think Bohl goes in and brings him on? We are short a safeties coach after all.
WestWYOPoke
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fromolwyoming said:
No they aren't. Dickert is safeties coach. Aaron Bohl (took over LBs when Dickert moved to safety after Garza left) was named full time LB coach. This happened last week I think.
fromolwyoming
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WestWYOPoke said:
Ah, missed it. My bad.
The defensive coordinator, Zach Arnett, left for Syracuse today.. so Hoke's looking for a DC now too.
ragtimejoe1
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Since his initial discussions about stepping down were in Dec, is there any documentation that it was because an AD was forcing his hand on coordinators or are Vigen fanboys running with internet rumors?
ItSucksToBeACSURam
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MrTitleist said:
Any word on if hes looking for a seasoned OC?
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
Good question.. Hoke's a different cat..
bullbugle307
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ragtimejoe1 said:
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God it's hard to type like that. I don't know how lax does it so often
I'm only kidding around to those who feel like telling Bohl Vigen needs to put a decent offense on the field or pack his bags is gonna make Bohl leave. It's obvious he hasn't performed, and it's also obvious Bohl is never gonna make a change with Vigen no matter how bad our offense is at putting points on the board and passing efficiency. As long as we look good statistically at running we can brag and beat our chest about our hard nosed culture and Vigens not going anywhere no matter how bad we are at beating good teams and actually putting points on the board and sustaining drives.
I think its likely Long retired for a number of reasons, age being at the top of the list. He and Bohl may both be too stubborn to hear that their offenses suck and staff changes are needed for them to stop holding their respective teams back from greater successes. Perhaps Bohl and Long would leave if the AD tried to force them to make a change. Maybe their stubbornness and inability to make changes in order to have a successful offense when teams can force you to have a passing game is why both have been unable to win championships at the rate Boise State has. But what do I know, I'm just some dude who thinks I could coach little league and that we could be much better with a different coordinator given that the vast majority of teams are more successful on offense than us, even the ones that have challenges similar to ours.
