carbonpoke
Well-known member
Uhh, that loss kinda sucked, but was sorta expecting it. The pot-gate hurt in more ways than just depth. I believe it also hurt our mentality heading into Vegas. Papa shy gives second chances so I think they all return, as Trey burned his second chance this year, hopefully the young bucks learn a valuable lesson.
Wasn't crazy about hearing the shyatt retirement rumor, as he just renegotiated a contact, and I don't feel our program has returned to where we and shyatt want it to be. Glad he didn't, and I don't expect him too.
One small bright piece from today's loss is that Josh can heal. He is going to need fresh body and feet in the coming month. I do expect he will go to NBA combine. I posted on the mwc board that he has a great shot at being drafted and still feel strongly about it. Arguments from other fans within the conference vary... One of them is the jimmer comparison. To me that is way off base, jimmer was a one dimensional scorer that never had the other two dimensions that Josh was born with. Freakish athletisim and elite lateral quickness. Jimmer could shoot, but he couldnt defend or create.
The other argument is that Josh isn't a great defender... Which is also garbage. Losing Nance and Cooke hurt our man to man defensive scheme. This year Josh played true zone. Last year, we met Derek marks twice... Once regular season and again in tournament. Josh held marks 6-8 points below his scoring average, and dismantled marks in the tourney, to the point that Leon rice brought in a freshman to hard foul Josh.
And remember, defense is also about driving and creating fouls. Josh puts incredible pressure on defenders. He was top five in the country this year at free throw rate. Not percentage, but actually getting to the stripe.
I stated that Josh has increased value this year due to the current state of the NBA. Golden state is going to go down as the best or second best team ever. Adams has value because teams will see potential for him as a enegetitic 6'2 guard. There isn't a proper one man defensive scheme for Curry right now... But there is a two man rotational defensive scheme, where substitutions and high enrgy minutes can run Curry of his spot, then drive on Curry on the other end.
Even without golden state, Josh still has huge upside that GM's and scouts will see. For one, there is a data base that all scouts and coaches are privy too. It records all games, whether TV coverage or not, so teams can game plan. What this means is that everybody who has seen Josh knows that he is a great defender when the team around allows him to be. Secondly, there isn't a player in the mwc that has improved as much as Josh... He's doing something right. He hasn't stagnated, every facet of his game is evolving. That tells me he has extraordinary work ethic. Again, something that NBA franchises value.
It's all going to come down to how Josh perform in the team setting at the combine, and his personal work outs. Eric mussleman already stated that Josh is the most NBA ready player in the league... Not NBA-D league ready. Not over seas ready. NBA ready...
Go get um Josh. We believe in you, but what matters is that some NBA teams are starting to believe in you. Defense and energy.
Wasn't crazy about hearing the shyatt retirement rumor, as he just renegotiated a contact, and I don't feel our program has returned to where we and shyatt want it to be. Glad he didn't, and I don't expect him too.
One small bright piece from today's loss is that Josh can heal. He is going to need fresh body and feet in the coming month. I do expect he will go to NBA combine. I posted on the mwc board that he has a great shot at being drafted and still feel strongly about it. Arguments from other fans within the conference vary... One of them is the jimmer comparison. To me that is way off base, jimmer was a one dimensional scorer that never had the other two dimensions that Josh was born with. Freakish athletisim and elite lateral quickness. Jimmer could shoot, but he couldnt defend or create.
The other argument is that Josh isn't a great defender... Which is also garbage. Losing Nance and Cooke hurt our man to man defensive scheme. This year Josh played true zone. Last year, we met Derek marks twice... Once regular season and again in tournament. Josh held marks 6-8 points below his scoring average, and dismantled marks in the tourney, to the point that Leon rice brought in a freshman to hard foul Josh.
And remember, defense is also about driving and creating fouls. Josh puts incredible pressure on defenders. He was top five in the country this year at free throw rate. Not percentage, but actually getting to the stripe.
I stated that Josh has increased value this year due to the current state of the NBA. Golden state is going to go down as the best or second best team ever. Adams has value because teams will see potential for him as a enegetitic 6'2 guard. There isn't a proper one man defensive scheme for Curry right now... But there is a two man rotational defensive scheme, where substitutions and high enrgy minutes can run Curry of his spot, then drive on Curry on the other end.
Even without golden state, Josh still has huge upside that GM's and scouts will see. For one, there is a data base that all scouts and coaches are privy too. It records all games, whether TV coverage or not, so teams can game plan. What this means is that everybody who has seen Josh knows that he is a great defender when the team around allows him to be. Secondly, there isn't a player in the mwc that has improved as much as Josh... He's doing something right. He hasn't stagnated, every facet of his game is evolving. That tells me he has extraordinary work ethic. Again, something that NBA franchises value.
It's all going to come down to how Josh perform in the team setting at the combine, and his personal work outs. Eric mussleman already stated that Josh is the most NBA ready player in the league... Not NBA-D league ready. Not over seas ready. NBA ready...
Go get um Josh. We believe in you, but what matters is that some NBA teams are starting to believe in you. Defense and energy.