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OT: NDSU wins back-to-back titles
- Thread starter J-Rod
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Totally took it to Sam Houston State today. SHSU was a turnover machine today..
gopokes1399
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That coach should be getting some calls soon, shouldn't he?
gopokes1399
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I just meant in the near future, Wyoming might come calling his name soon if DC doesn't get his shit together. I think plenty of coaches all around the country have proved that extensions do not mean anything
OrediggerPoke
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...and it wasn't that long ago that NDSU was winning D2 championships
Fan support has a huge influence on a program and NDSU has it. I posted before CSU played NDSU in the MWC forum that NDSU would win and that NDSU would easily finish in the top half of the MWC this year.
Two teams that I think would be very successful at FBS:
North Dakota State
Grand Valley State (currently D2)
Fan support has a huge influence on a program and NDSU has it. I posted before CSU played NDSU in the MWC forum that NDSU would win and that NDSU would easily finish in the top half of the MWC this year.
Two teams that I think would be very successful at FBS:
North Dakota State
Grand Valley State (currently D2)
OrediggerPoke
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Aaron said:
If you are referring to the Jackrabbits, they have a bit to improve...they did however go to the PIT and beat UNM in men's basketball this year!! (not to mention their solid women's program)
Bohl has a lot of FBS wins under his belt at NDSU.. I'd say he'd be a pretty good coach at the FBS level.
BeaverPoke
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MrTitleist said:
And hasn't it been proven that no matter how good of a coach you are it doesn't matter at the FBS level because it's all about the players that come in now the coaching system?
DC was the best OC in the country, and now he is a mediocre head coach. Joe Glen was a GREAT FCS coach and wasa a mediocre head coach at the fbs level.
Look at Bobby Hauk at unlv. Same as Joe Glen.
If Nick Saban was in Laramie, would we be playing the NCAA Championship game tomorrow? If DC was in Tuscaloosa would he be 22-28 or whatever DC is in Laramie?
I think football is BS because it is all about where you are. Not who is coaching.
J-Rod
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Certainly there is a case to be made for this argument.....Wyoming has been bad for more than a decade now, spanning 3 different coaches. Begs the question: Are the coaches the problem, or Wyoming? Football has very much become about money and T.V. ratings over the last 20 years......and its finally caught up with UW.BeaverPoke said:
BeaverPoke
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J-Rod said:
And not to say that we will always be bad, but it makes it a lot harder for us to be good than let's say...an old rival named Utah.
Think about this....Would you want to go play in butt-fuck no where Wyoming where there is nothing to do and no people and play for Joe Glenn. Or would you want to go play for a team who just won a BCS bowl in a big city in Salt Lake City where there are clubs and shit like that and play for Urban Meyer/Kyle Whittingham?
Now it's even worse, go play for a coach who has a good offense but the program has been inconsistent in Laramie Wyoming in the shitty MWC? Or go play in a big city and play in the PAC12 for a team who has won 2 bcs bowls recently?
People always try and justify why we are struggling in real nice words, well let's talk about the situation the way these recruits that aren't coming here are thinking of it.
A lot of you people are gonna get mad and say THERE IS TO STUFF TO DO IN LARAMIE AND WYOMING! The mountains! Hunting! Fishing!
TRUST ME! I know. I was born and raised in Wyoming. I know what there is to do.
But have an assistant coach go down into Texas and compete with Tech/A&M/Texas or even the smaller ones, Rice/UTEP and try and sell that to an 18 year old kid.
And even in Colorado, the kids know that Wyoming has stuff to offer, and I applaud DC and staff for pulling so many CO kids since English left, but if you are a kid from Denver, and you are getting 4 offers...AFA, CU, CSU, and Wyo, I bet if I was that denver kid I would pick CU.
Even if the program is not that great, it is still in Boulder and HAD a good football tradition. I would want to play @Folsom Field playing Pac12 teams all day before I am signing up for the military to play football, before I am playin in a shit stadium against MWC teams in FoCo, and before I am leaving the state to go play for a mediocre team in Laramie.
And we all know that wyoming highschool is not a hot bed of d1 talent so that's not a place for us to go if we wanna compete.
BeaverPoke said:
No, Wyoming wouldn't be playing in the NC game but, if Saban were in Laramie the Cowboys would be a much better team, because he is a better coach and recruiter. At some point I'm sure that he would have Wyoming in the discussion of a BCS bowl bid at some point. Sure he wouldn't be getting the same 4 and 5 star football players he's able to get to Alabama, but he would likely get better players than DC would simpley because he is a better coach and players know that he'll get them ready for the next level and give them the best opportunity to get drafted.
No DC wouldn't be 22-28 or whatever, but I would say that DC wouldn't be winning a NC at Alabama either, because he isn't that great of a coach, he's okay but not he's no Nick Saban. Judging from what he's done in Laramie, he would be getting beat like a drum in the SEC.
fromolwyoming
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Well, there is the experience factor as well. Saban has been a HC for quite a while now, while Wyoming is DC's first gig as a HC (was the OC under Pinkel for quite a while).gbpoke said:
They average 19K for their indoor arena, but they can't expand.. that's a pretty fixed number without a new facility.
