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NBA draft day is here. Let's getr done josh

I don't see him getting drafted. He didn't have the same buzz around him in the lead up to the draft that Larry did last year. I hope the right team signs him to an undrafted contract and he can stick.

Hope I am wrong and he ends up drafted.
 
Mid 40's of seniors last I checked on draft express. I just hope he lands in the right situation that allows him to be a 3&D point guard with limited true point guard responsibilities. I expect him to go undrafted. I think that's in his best interest right now so he can have some choice in his destination rather than ending up in some shit show like Sacramento.
 
Larry wasn't rated much higher by DraftExpress last year. If I've learned anything, what happens come draft time, is usually completely different than what DraftExpress had listed. However, the difference here is the fact that Josh was snubbed on the combine invite. He wasn't able to showcase his skills for the scouts against top-flight competition. I honestly don't think he will get drafted. Unless, there is a team that has taken notice of his skill set and competitive fire. He will defintely get a FA contract though. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Josh, but I am not going to set myself up for disappointment.
 
STJ10 said:
However, the difference here is the fact that Josh was snubbed on the combine invite. He wasn't able to showcase his skills for the scouts against top-flight competition.
I feel like Josh would've gone to the combine under last year's rules. A bunch of kids were able to attend the combine this year and still elect to come back to school, so there were less spots available for NBA-eligible prospects.

And "top-flight competition" doesn't typically participate in live scrimmages at the combine, so the only way Josh can compete with them is by test results -- which he did for at least 13 teams in private workouts -- this is the way Larry snuck into the 1st round. The Lakers said they drafted Larry based off his private workout, not the combine. With Josh saying he had at least 13 of those types of workouts, I'm still feeling optimistic.
 
They do in fact, participate in live scrimmages. They replayed the combine today on TV. Check it out sometime. Plenty of scrimmages taking place.
 
STJ10 said:
They do in fact, participate in live scrimmages. They replayed the combine today on TV. Check it out sometime. Plenty of scrimmages taking place.
Who is "they"? I wasn't denying that there are scrimmages, but rather "top-flight" competition (lottery picks) don't participate in those scrimmages. The talent level in combine scrimmages isn't "top flight", it's pretty similar to the quality of the portsmouth invitational (which Josh did compete in)
 
cali2wyo said:
Who is "they"? I wasn't denying that there are scrimmages, but rather "top-flight" competition (lottery picks) don't participate in those scrimmages. The talent level in combine scrimmages isn't "top flight", it's pretty similar to the quality of the portsmouth invitational (which Josh did compete in)
Combine scrimmages are a definite step up from Portsmouth.

Only two PIT participants were drafted, Abdel Nader (58) and Isaiah Cousins (59). A lot of the Combine scrimmagers were drafted.
 
joshvanklomp said:
cali2wyo said:
Who is "they"? I wasn't denying that there are scrimmages, but rather "top-flight" competition (lottery picks) don't participate in those scrimmages. The talent level in combine scrimmages isn't "top flight", it's pretty similar to the quality of the portsmouth invitational (which Josh did compete in)
Combine scrimmages are a definite step up from Portsmouth.

Only two PIT participants were drafted, Abdel Nader (58) and Isaiah Cousins (59). A lot of the Combine scrimmagers were drafted.
Thanks for the research, but still, on a quick glance not a single combine scrimmage participant was drafted in the first round either. Are we going to consider 2nd round prospects "top-flight"?

JVK, you seem like somebody who does their research. Do you know the typical timeline for undrafted rookies to sign with teams? It seems like NFL teams are signing guys even before the last round is over lol. It's been awhile since I've been rooting for a guy in Josh's situation, so I'm not sure when to expect any news.
 
Some guys have already agreed to contracts like Gary Payton's son. Sometimes they don't get announced right away. I don't see how he gets passed over with the summer leagues and expanding d-league.
 
Sometimes Summer League rosters aren't announced until a day or two before teams begin play. As a reminder, there are three different summer leagues.

Orlando: July 2-8
Utah: July 4-7
Vegas: July 8-18

Many times, players have played for a team in Orlando and then play for a different franchise in Vegas. Essentially, these are tryouts for most guys. A summer league roster spot means very little in terms of security. For Gary Payton II, mentioned above, there is a little more security, but still not a lot.
 
joshvanklomp said:
Sometimes Summer League rosters aren't announced until a day or two before teams begin play. As a reminder, there are three different summer leagues.

Orlando: July 2-8
Utah: July 4-7
Vegas: July 8-18

Many times, players have played for a team in Orlando and then play for a different franchise in Vegas. Essentially, these are tryouts for most guys. A summer league roster spot means very little in terms of security. For Gary Payton II, mentioned above, there is a little more security, but still not a lot.
Where is the Utah one? SLC I assume?
 
joshvanklomp said:
wyokoke said:
Where is the Utah one? SLC I assume?
Where the Jazz play

Only 4 teams there: Celtics, Sixers, Jazz, Spurs
Games are typically played at the Jazz practice facility if I am not mistaken. Josh will get his chance somewhere. Just more fuel for the fire in my opinion.
 
poke_addict said:
Games are typically played at the Jazz practice facility if I am not mistaken.
Just looked it up. July 4-5 at the main Jazz arena, no games July 6, July 7 at the Utes arena (Huntsman)

http://www.nba.com/jazz/news/utah-jazz-summer-league-return-july/
 
joshvanklomp said:
poke_addict said:
Games are typically played at the Jazz practice facility if I am not mistaken.
Just looked it up. July 4-5 at the main Jazz arena, no games July 6, July 7 at the Utes arena (Huntsman)

http://www.nba.com/jazz/news/utah-jazz-summer-league-return-july/
Well it looks like I was mistaken. I know in the past a lot of the summer league games were at the zions bank center which is there practice facility. I went to a summer league game there once but that was years ago. Thanks for the update Josh
 

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