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Is the FCS alternative really that bad?
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OrediggerPoke
Well-known member
We are being trolled.
Asmodeanreborn
Well-known member
Might be trolling, but several members here have suggested we drop to FCS in the past while being completely serious.
Personally, I think Wyoming Football is doomed. It will not receive the investments necessary to turn around, and the recent coaching hires doomed the chance of any sustained success. Good luck at getting even remotely decent recruits now. I have a feeling our top 2025 recruits will start dropping soon.
Personally, I think Wyoming Football is doomed. It will not receive the investments necessary to turn around, and the recent coaching hires doomed the chance of any sustained success. Good luck at getting even remotely decent recruits now. I have a feeling our top 2025 recruits will start dropping soon.
NorthWestCowboy
Member
Dropping down to FCS would be a mistake. In not so many years there will be a G5-6 playoff and Wyoming wants to be in this DeFacto second tier rather than the 3rd tier FCS. Maybe a formal split of FBS will happen and maybe it will not. Either way dropping to FCS ensures Wyoming would be in the 3rd tier of college football. There will be a lot of movement and change in the next few years with 2030-31 looking to be a very significant year given several conferences grants of rights expirations. Additionally, there will be clarification/regulation of NIL, revenue sharing and transfer rules. As long as UW has an FBS conference home the university needs to remain in the FBS. At least until there is a clearer picture of what the future FBS will look like.
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I support Wyoming’s move from the FBS to the FCS.
While I wasn’t born and raised in Wyoming, I did attend from 2013-2016, and I have an appreciation for the program. Despite that loyalty, it's clear that Wyoming’s football future in the FBS is limited, and the reasons for transitioning to the FCS are compelling.
Firstly, Wyoming’s pursuit of major success in the next generation of college athletics is unlikely to pan out. The landscape of FBS football has evolved into a game of “haves” and “have-nots,” and it’s apparent we’ve been left behind in that regard. Larger programs with more resources have created an environment that we cannot keep up with. Moving to the FCS would allow us to cultivate regional rivalries and focus on competing to be the best at a more attainable level, and I believe Wyoming could be a strong contender there.
One of the strongest arguments for moving to FCS is the postseason structure. The FCS playoff system offers a much clearer and cleaner path to meaningful post-season play. The outdated and, in some cases, flawed bowl system in the FBS provides limited opportunities for a school like Wyoming. Even if we were to make a Group of Five playoff spot, the likelihood of facing national embarrassment on such a stage is high. In FCS, we’d have a legitimate shot at playoff success and could, in theory, regularly compete for a national championship. That "in theory" simply doesn't exist as the landscape currently exists.
Geographically, Wyoming is well-positioned to compete with some of the top FCS schools, particularly those within our region. With Colorado State University (CSU) no longer in the Mountain West, the value of staying in this conference is diminishing, leaving us little reason to cling to the FBS.
Now, I recognize there would be some lost revenue in moving from FBS to FCS, but this is a trade-off worth considering. Would we rather be stuck at the bottom of the “top league” or be real contenders in the “next best thing”? The financial savings, reduced expenses (NIL), and operational costs could make this a more sustainable option for the university in the long run.
IMO, moving to the FCS allows Wyoming to be competitive, financially responsible, and aligned with a more regional, fan-engaged model of football.
I'd rather not see us spend our time, talent, and treasure chasing our outdated dreams of FBS glory that we’re unlikely to achieve.
While I wasn’t born and raised in Wyoming, I did attend from 2013-2016, and I have an appreciation for the program. Despite that loyalty, it's clear that Wyoming’s football future in the FBS is limited, and the reasons for transitioning to the FCS are compelling.
Firstly, Wyoming’s pursuit of major success in the next generation of college athletics is unlikely to pan out. The landscape of FBS football has evolved into a game of “haves” and “have-nots,” and it’s apparent we’ve been left behind in that regard. Larger programs with more resources have created an environment that we cannot keep up with. Moving to the FCS would allow us to cultivate regional rivalries and focus on competing to be the best at a more attainable level, and I believe Wyoming could be a strong contender there.
One of the strongest arguments for moving to FCS is the postseason structure. The FCS playoff system offers a much clearer and cleaner path to meaningful post-season play. The outdated and, in some cases, flawed bowl system in the FBS provides limited opportunities for a school like Wyoming. Even if we were to make a Group of Five playoff spot, the likelihood of facing national embarrassment on such a stage is high. In FCS, we’d have a legitimate shot at playoff success and could, in theory, regularly compete for a national championship. That "in theory" simply doesn't exist as the landscape currently exists.
Geographically, Wyoming is well-positioned to compete with some of the top FCS schools, particularly those within our region. With Colorado State University (CSU) no longer in the Mountain West, the value of staying in this conference is diminishing, leaving us little reason to cling to the FBS.
Now, I recognize there would be some lost revenue in moving from FBS to FCS, but this is a trade-off worth considering. Would we rather be stuck at the bottom of the “top league” or be real contenders in the “next best thing”? The financial savings, reduced expenses (NIL), and operational costs could make this a more sustainable option for the university in the long run.
IMO, moving to the FCS allows Wyoming to be competitive, financially responsible, and aligned with a more regional, fan-engaged model of football.
I'd rather not see us spend our time, talent, and treasure chasing our outdated dreams of FBS glory that we’re unlikely to achieve.
ragtimejoe1
Well-known member
Let's wait and see how this fbs thing shakes out. No sense in dtopping down if(when) a g6 league forms. The only thing clear is big changes are coming to fbs.
Itsux2beaewe
Well-known member
Yep, I’m ignoring this guys posts. Do we not all remember the BS he was spewing before the BYU game. Let’s not make him relevant. I’m not going to. Last post on any of his……. From me
LanderPoke
Well-known member
No dropping down. What a joke. If that happens, I’m done cold turkey
McPeachy
Well-known member
and your three momssandiegopoke
Well-known member
Yes, it is that bad.
Midwest Cowboy
Well-known member
Beyond comprehension. There are probably 30 or more teams that present a better argument for dropping down. If we were sitting at 2-2, no one would make this argument. I'd rather raze the War and use the space than drop down to FCS. Every damn FCS program is envious of FBS schools and hoping for a shot. We have a credible argument that Bohl used to make. Come to Wyoming and actually play. Isaiah Neyor went to Texas and played one game. Wyoming needs to double-down on marketing to 3 star recruits for an actual chance to play vs. carry some dudes water bottle. If we can't make it work, then so be it. But dropping down is a death sentence for a program that has presented one hell of a lot of excitement against FBS teams the last decade.
Midwest Cowboy
Well-known member
Maybe some of those big wind farm developers can start writing some NIL checks like Fed Ex did. A little sarcasm there.
FBS means nothing to lesser haves like us and truthfully haven't for years, we all know it and shouldn't deny it anymore....afterall I'd rather play for a playoff that we all know if things go right a run is much easier than against a total shot in the dark against the Big table of 12..(no chance, sorry that bypassed us 30 years ago)
DamThatRiver22
Well-known member
Dropping to FCS is not a financially viable option, and this has been reiterated time and again by UW administration as well as rank and file folks in the state government.
I know it's always the knee-jerk reaction when we aren't competitive, and now with conference realignment not working in our favor...but the math doesn't lie. People with a whole lot more experience and knowledge in this area has consistently and adamantly stated that the math, well, doesn't math. And as we have seen, finances are the one overruling, overarching factor that drives decisions like this.
We would burn every last cent we have to float around in independence for a few years while looking for a conference before we dropped to FCS. The reduction in revenue from dropping to FCS, plus the MASSIVELY increased costs involved in moving back up to FBS if we ever wanted to (used to be like $5k, now it's around $5 MILLION), makes it an absolute non-starter.
Just stop.
I know it's always the knee-jerk reaction when we aren't competitive, and now with conference realignment not working in our favor...but the math doesn't lie. People with a whole lot more experience and knowledge in this area has consistently and adamantly stated that the math, well, doesn't math. And as we have seen, finances are the one overruling, overarching factor that drives decisions like this.
We would burn every last cent we have to float around in independence for a few years while looking for a conference before we dropped to FCS. The reduction in revenue from dropping to FCS, plus the MASSIVELY increased costs involved in moving back up to FBS if we ever wanted to (used to be like $5k, now it's around $5 MILLION), makes it an absolute non-starter.
Just stop.
