I'm not convinced Smith made the right decision

[wyoav211933]

I for one am happy to have had Brett Smith here, and I won't turn on him for leaving, but I do think it is a poor decision. I just don't see him getting drafted at all, or even remaining on an NFL roster after training camp. He never really had good games against a good defense, and sometimes had poor games against mediocre to poor defenses. Not all of this was his fault honestly, but I just know that if I'm an NFL scout, that is kind of a red flag for me. He is kinda small for an NFL QB, not an insurmountable one, but one that gives you less room for error, and quite frankly played a style of offense that just doesn't happen in the NFL. Statistically he looks only ok in that he was somewhere near 20th in the nation in passing yards, but in advanced stats like ESPN's QBR (an admittedly flawed, but at least thoughtful stat) he looks pretty darn mediocre (64th!). If he played any other position, I'd say maybe give it a shot, I never would guessed Malcolm Floyd, Chris Prosinski, Wendling, or even Chuckwurah would've had the NFL careers they have/had, but at the QB position, it's more important, I'm taking fewer chances, and I wouldn't take him if I were an NFL GM.

While he wouldn't have put up the same numbers under Bohl's system, I still think he could end up looking pretty darn impressive, putting up more TD passes at least, running a system closer to an NFL system, and whether it's deserved or not, just winning more games would've given him more notoriety. I don't see how staying another year would've hurt his NFL stock (but of course I'm thinking in terms of it being low right now, much lower than it sounds like most people here have him), but I appreciate the allure of entering the draft and I take him at his word that it wasn't just because of the coaching change.

 

[Cowboy Junky]

So if Brett comes back next year gets another concussion (making it at least 3) before the draft, and sees his stock plummet because of his health issue then he made the right decision?

 

[wyoav211933]

Of course not Cowboy Junky, but to be fair you did introduce the worse-case scenario of him coming back. Whatever he chooses will carry some risk, I'm merely proposing that coming back was less risky, not risk free.

 

[Cowboy Junky]

He already has at least 2 concussions that I know about. People are forced to retire after 4 or 5. That doesn't leave him much wiggle room.

He has to look out for his family, himself, and follow his own dreams. If someone is telling him he's going to be an upper level draft pick I don't see how he could make any other choice.

 

[wyokoke]

He already has at least 2 concussions that I know about. People are forced to retire after 4 or 5. That doesn't leave him much wiggle room.

He has to look out for his family, himself, and follow his own dreams. If someone is telling him he's going to be an upper level draft pick I don't see how he could make any other choice.

+1, it was great to have him the past 3 years and i wish he could come back. That being said, the risk of coming back is a prettt big deal, and its easier to say you would say when theres not potential millions on the table for you

 

[wyoav211933]

I know he had the one at the end of the Toledo game. I thought he sat out of the Howdy-Doody AFA game as punishment for getting ejected against Nevada the week before not because of concussion, although I could be wrong about that. Unless of course he had concussions in High School. But don't think he had concussions this year, and under a system that would not rely on him scrambling as much, I would assume his risk of getting a concussion his senior year would drop.

I really do understand why he's doing it. I don't blame him at all. I'd probably make the same decision if I were in this place. I'm not looking at it from his perspective though, I'm looking at it through an employer perspective. I just disagree with the folks he got his advice from. I'm not as convinced he really could earn those millions people are telling him he could earn. But I'm neither an NFL scout or GM, so I could very easily be wrong.

 

[Cowduck]

I for one am happy to have had Brett Smith here, and I won't turn on him for leaving, but I do think it is a poor decision. I just don't see him getting drafted at all, or even remaining on an NFL roster after training camp. He never really had good games against a good defense, and sometimes had poor games against mediocre to poor defenses. Not all of this was his fault honestly, but I just know that if I'm an NFL scout, that is kind of a red flag for me. He is kinda small for an NFL QB, not an insurmountable one, but one that gives you less room for error, and quite frankly played a style of offense that just doesn't happen in the NFL. Statistically he looks only ok in that he was somewhere near 20th in the nation in passing yards, but in advanced stats like ESPN's QBR (an admittedly flawed, but at least thoughtful stat) he looks pretty darn mediocre (64th!). If he played any other position, I'd say maybe give it a shot, I never would guessed Malcolm Floyd, Chris Prosinski, Wendling, or even Chuckwurah would've had the NFL careers they have/had, but at the QB position, it's more important, I'm taking fewer chances, and I wouldn't take him if I were an NFL GM.

While he wouldn't have put up the same numbers under Bohl's system, I still think he could end up looking pretty darn impressive, putting up more TD passes at least, running a system closer to an NFL system, and whether it's deserved or not, just winning more games would've given him more notoriety. I don't see how staying another year would've hurt his NFL stock (but of course I'm thinking in terms of it being low right now, much lower than it sounds like most people here have him), but I appreciate the allure of entering the draft and I take him at his word that it wasn't just because of the coaching change.

He may or not have a successful NFL career, you really never know. But he's getting drafted. I'll say it again: he would not be declaring early if the advisory board didn't think he'll get picked, probably by round four or five at the very latest. He isn't stupid.

 

[Cowduck]

Oh, and staying another year hurts his stock if he suffers a career-altering or -ending injury. It's all about uncompensated risk.

 

[SDPokeFan]

I for one am happy to have had Brett Smith here, and I won't turn on him for leaving, but I do think it is a poor decision. I just don't see him getting drafted at all, or even remaining on an NFL roster after training camp. He never really had good games against a good defense, and sometimes had poor games against mediocre to poor defenses. Not all of this was his fault honestly, but I just know that if I'm an NFL scout, that is kind of a red flag for me. He is kinda small for an NFL QB, not an insurmountable one, but one that gives you less room for error, and quite frankly played a style of offense that just doesn't happen in the NFL. Statistically he looks only ok in that he was somewhere near 20th in the nation in passing yards, but in advanced stats like ESPN's QBR (an admittedly flawed, but at least thoughtful stat) he looks pretty darn mediocre (64th!). If he played any other position, I'd say maybe give it a shot, I never would guessed Malcolm Floyd, Chris Prosinski, Wendling, or even Chuckwurah would've had the NFL careers they have/had, but at the QB position, it's more important, I'm taking fewer chances, and I wouldn't take him if I were an NFL GM.

While he wouldn't have put up the same numbers under Bohl's system, I still think he could end up looking pretty darn impressive, putting up more TD passes at least, running a system closer to an NFL system, and whether it's deserved or not, just winning more games would've given him more notoriety. I don't see how staying another year would've hurt his NFL stock (but of course I'm thinking in terms of it being low right now, much lower than it sounds like most people here have him), but I appreciate the allure of entering the draft and I take him at his word that it wasn't just because of the coaching change.

You're not allowed to have any common sense on here.

 

[PotatoCreekPete]

I for one am happy to have had Brett Smith here, and I won't turn on him for leaving, but I do think it is a poor decision. I just don't see him getting drafted at all, or even remaining on an NFL roster after training camp. He never really had good games against a good defense, and sometimes had poor games against mediocre to poor defenses. Not all of this was his fault honestly, but I just know that if I'm an NFL scout, that is kind of a red flag for me. He is kinda small for an NFL QB, not an insurmountable one, but one that gives you less room for error, and quite frankly played a style of offense that just doesn't happen in the NFL. Statistically he looks only ok in that he was somewhere near 20th in the nation in passing yards, but in advanced stats like ESPN's QBR (an admittedly flawed, but at least thoughtful stat) he looks pretty darn mediocre (64th!). If he played any other position, I'd say maybe give it a shot, I never would guessed Malcolm Floyd, Chris Prosinski, Wendling, or even Chuckwurah would've had the NFL careers they have/had, but at the QB position, it's more important, I'm taking fewer chances, and I wouldn't take him if I were an NFL GM.

While he wouldn't have put up the same numbers under Bohl's system, I still think he could end up looking pretty darn impressive, putting up more TD passes at least, running a system closer to an NFL system, and whether it's deserved or not, just winning more games would've given him more notoriety. I don't see how staying another year would've hurt his NFL stock (but of course I'm thinking in terms of it being low right now, much lower than it sounds like most people here have him), but I appreciate the allure of entering the draft and I take him at his word that it wasn't just because of the coaching change.

You're not allowed to have any common sense on here.

Sounds like someone has gotten his feelings hurt....where do we send the tissue so you can dry your tears? You started by being a low life and attacking Brett personally and you call that logic, only in the twisted Stupid Douche world of SDPokeFan. You have asked for and deserved all of the stuff that has been dumped on you because of the thoughtless, moronic attacks that you did against Brett.....and oh yes, you still are a gutless piece of trash.

 

[fromolwyoming]

I for one am happy to have had Brett Smith here, and I won't turn on him for leaving, but I do think it is a poor decision. I just don't see him getting drafted at all, or even remaining on an NFL roster after training camp. He never really had good games against a good defense, and sometimes had poor games against mediocre to poor defenses. Not all of this was his fault honestly, but I just know that if I'm an NFL scout, that is kind of a red flag for me. He is kinda small for an NFL QB, not an insurmountable one, but one that gives you less room for error, and quite frankly played a style of offense that just doesn't happen in the NFL. Statistically he looks only ok in that he was somewhere near 20th in the nation in passing yards, but in advanced stats like ESPN's QBR (an admittedly flawed, but at least thoughtful stat) he looks pretty darn mediocre (64th!). If he played any other position, I'd say maybe give it a shot, I never would guessed Malcolm Floyd, Chris Prosinski, Wendling, or even Chuckwurah would've had the NFL careers they have/had, but at the QB position, it's more important, I'm taking fewer chances, and I wouldn't take him if I were an NFL GM.

While he wouldn't have put up the same numbers under Bohl's system, I still think he could end up looking pretty darn impressive, putting up more TD passes at least, running a system closer to an NFL system, and whether it's deserved or not, just winning more games would've given him more notoriety. I don't see how staying another year would've hurt his NFL stock (but of course I'm thinking in terms of it being low right now, much lower than it sounds like most people here have him), but I appreciate the allure of entering the draft and I take him at his word that it wasn't just because of the coaching change.

You're not allowed to have any common sense on here.

Says the person who's been degrading Brett Smith and trolling in every thread.

 

[wyoav211933]

Oh, and staying another year hurts his stock if he suffers a career-altering or -ending injury. It's all about uncompensated risk.

I just think it's funny that everybody assumes that he was going to get injured if he stays another year. Fact is he is no more at risk to get such injury in his hypothetical senior year than he would've this year, or later in his sophmore year after that first concussion. The possibility of future injury should be pretty low on his list of reasons to not stay, that's even more impossible to predict than if he has a good NFL career. No, I'm sure he's leaving because he thinks he has a chance at getting drafted high, I hope for his sake he's right and I'll be cheering him on regardless.

 

[wyokoke]

Oh, and staying another year hurts his stock if he suffers a career-altering or -ending injury. It's all about uncompensated risk.

I just think it's funny that everybody assumes that he was going to get injured if he stays another year. Fact is he is no more at risk to get such injury in his hypothetical senior year than he would've this year, or later in his sophmore year after that first concussion. The possibility of future injury should be pretty low on his list of reasons to not stay, that's even more impossible to predict than if he has a good NFL career. No, I'm sure he's leaving because he thinks he has a chance at getting drafted high, I hope for his sake he's right and I'll be cheering him on regardless.

You're right, thw chances are pretty low. However, that is still uncompensated risk, and like cowduck said if t hr e advisory board didn't give him good news i think he would be back

 

[wyoav211933]

Oh yes, I'm just curious as to how his "advisory board" evaluated him, I just know that I'm not as optimistic on him on draft day as they are, which is really where my opinion stems from, and which also pains me because I really like Smith.

 

[bababooeypoke]

Smith is the best QB Wyoming has ever had. He is athletic, has accuracy, balls and a strong arm. I hope he gets drafted high and I get to watch him on Sundays. If I were him and was going to get drafted in any round, I would jump. The only thing I have noticed with Brett is that he tends to squat down and throw the ball from his ear hole. It makes him a lot shorter than he is. In a spread offense with the offensive line split wide it hasn't been too much of a problem, but the NFL will be a little different. Then again, he's never had an offensive line. We haven't had an offensive line for a long time.

 

[SDPokeFan]

I for one am happy to have had Brett Smith here, and I won't turn on him for leaving, but I do think it is a poor decision. I just don't see him getting drafted at all, or even remaining on an NFL roster after training camp. He never really had good games against a good defense, and sometimes had poor games against mediocre to poor defenses. Not all of this was his fault honestly, but I just know that if I'm an NFL scout, that is kind of a red flag for me. He is kinda small for an NFL QB, not an insurmountable one, but one that gives you less room for error, and quite frankly played a style of offense that just doesn't happen in the NFL. Statistically he looks only ok in that he was somewhere near 20th in the nation in passing yards, but in advanced stats like ESPN's QBR (an admittedly flawed, but at least thoughtful stat) he looks pretty darn mediocre (64th!). If he played any other position, I'd say maybe give it a shot, I never would guessed Malcolm Floyd, Chris Prosinski, Wendling, or even Chuckwurah would've had the NFL careers they have/had, but at the QB position, it's more important, I'm taking fewer chances, and I wouldn't take him if I were an NFL GM.

While he wouldn't have put up the same numbers under Bohl's system, I still think he could end up looking pretty darn impressive, putting up more TD passes at least, running a system closer to an NFL system, and whether it's deserved or not, just winning more games would've given him more notoriety. I don't see how staying another year would've hurt his NFL stock (but of course I'm thinking in terms of it being low right now, much lower than it sounds like most people here have him), but I appreciate the allure of entering the draft and I take him at his word that it wasn't just because of the coaching change.

You're not allowed to have any common sense on here.

Sounds like someone has gotten his feelings hurt....where do we send the tissue so you can dry your tears? You started by being a low life and attacking Brett personally and you call that logic, only in the twisted Stupid Douche world of SDPokeFan. You have asked for and deserved all of the stuff that has been dumped on you because of the thoughtless, moronic attacks that you did against Brett.....and oh yes, you still are a gutless piece of trash.

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

 

[wyokoke]

It's funny that you were getting at someone else, I forget who, for being "immature," Stupid Douche

 

[PotatoCreekPete]

I for one am happy to have had Brett Smith here, and I won't turn on him for leaving, but I do think it is a poor decision. I just don't see him getting drafted at all, or even remaining on an NFL roster after training camp. He never really had good games against a good defense, and sometimes had poor games against mediocre to poor defenses. Not all of this was his fault honestly, but I just know that if I'm an NFL scout, that is kind of a red flag for me. He is kinda small for an NFL QB, not an insurmountable one, but one that gives you less room for error, and quite frankly played a style of offense that just doesn't happen in the NFL. Statistically he looks only ok in that he was somewhere near 20th in the nation in passing yards, but in advanced stats like ESPN's QBR (an admittedly flawed, but at least thoughtful stat) he looks pretty darn mediocre (64th!). If he played any other position, I'd say maybe give it a shot, I never would guessed Malcolm Floyd, Chris Prosinski, Wendling, or even Chuckwurah would've had the NFL careers they have/had, but at the QB position, it's more important, I'm taking fewer chances, and I wouldn't take him if I were an NFL GM.

While he wouldn't have put up the same numbers under Bohl's system, I still think he could end up looking pretty darn impressive, putting up more TD passes at least, running a system closer to an NFL system, and whether it's deserved or not, just winning more games would've given him more notoriety. I don't see how staying another year would've hurt his NFL stock (but of course I'm thinking in terms of it being low right now, much lower than it sounds like most people here have him), but I appreciate the allure of entering the draft and I take him at his word that it wasn't just because of the coaching change.

You're not allowed to have any common sense on here.

Sounds like someone has gotten his feelings hurt....where do we send the tissue so you can dry your tears? You started by being a low life and attacking Brett personally and you call that logic, only in the twisted Stupid Douche world of SDPokeFan. You have asked for and deserved all of the stuff that has been dumped on you because of the thoughtless, moronic attacks that you did against Brett.....and oh yes, you still are a gutless piece of trash.

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

Wow, what a powerful come back, did you have help thinking that up or did you think of that all by yourself? There has been universal condemnation of you because of the lowlife crude ignorant attacks that you have made against Brett Smith, and everything you have said in return has just lowered everyone's opinion of you....if that is possible. The best thing that you can do is to leave before you are banned for being a lowlife.

 

[SDPokeFan]

I for one am happy to have had Brett Smith here, and I won't turn on him for leaving, but I do think it is a poor decision. I just don't see him getting drafted at all, or even remaining on an NFL roster after training camp. He never really had good games against a good defense, and sometimes had poor games against mediocre to poor defenses. Not all of this was his fault honestly, but I just know that if I'm an NFL scout, that is kind of a red flag for me. He is kinda small for an NFL QB, not an insurmountable one, but one that gives you less room for error, and quite frankly played a style of offense that just doesn't happen in the NFL. Statistically he looks only ok in that he was somewhere near 20th in the nation in passing yards, but in advanced stats like ESPN's QBR (an admittedly flawed, but at least thoughtful stat) he looks pretty darn mediocre (64th!). If he played any other position, I'd say maybe give it a shot, I never would guessed Malcolm Floyd, Chris Prosinski, Wendling, or even Chuckwurah would've had the NFL careers they have/had, but at the QB position, it's more important, I'm taking fewer chances, and I wouldn't take him if I were an NFL GM.

While he wouldn't have put up the same numbers under Bohl's system, I still think he could end up looking pretty darn impressive, putting up more TD passes at least, running a system closer to an NFL system, and whether it's deserved or not, just winning more games would've given him more notoriety. I don't see how staying another year would've hurt his NFL stock (but of course I'm thinking in terms of it being low right now, much lower than it sounds like most people here have him), but I appreciate the allure of entering the draft and I take him at his word that it wasn't just because of the coaching change.

You're not allowed to have any common sense on here.

Sounds like someone has gotten his feelings hurt....where do we send the tissue so you can dry your tears? You started by being a low life and attacking Brett personally and you call that logic, only in the twisted Stupid Douche world of SDPokeFan. You have asked for and deserved all of the stuff that has been dumped on you because of the thoughtless, moronic attacks that you did against Brett.....and oh yes, you still are a gutless piece of trash.

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

Wow, what a powerful come back, did you have help thinking that up or did you think of that all by yourself? There has been universal condemnation of you because of the lowlife crude ignorant attacks that you have made against Brett Smith, and everything you have said in return has just lowered everyone's opinion of you....if that is possible. The best thing that you can do is to leave before you are banned for being a lowlife.

Blah blah blah blah.

 

[PotatoCreekPete]

I for one am happy to have had Brett Smith here, and I won't turn on him for leaving, but I do think it is a poor decision. I just don't see him getting drafted at all, or even remaining on an NFL roster after training camp. He never really had good games against a good defense, and sometimes had poor games against mediocre to poor defenses. Not all of this was his fault honestly, but I just know that if I'm an NFL scout, that is kind of a red flag for me. He is kinda small for an NFL QB, not an insurmountable one, but one that gives you less room for error, and quite frankly played a style of offense that just doesn't happen in the NFL. Statistically he looks only ok in that he was somewhere near 20th in the nation in passing yards, but in advanced stats like ESPN's QBR (an admittedly flawed, but at least thoughtful stat) he looks pretty darn mediocre (64th!). If he played any other position, I'd say maybe give it a shot, I never would guessed Malcolm Floyd, Chris Prosinski, Wendling, or even Chuckwurah would've had the NFL careers they have/had, but at the QB position, it's more important, I'm taking fewer chances, and I wouldn't take him if I were an NFL GM.

While he wouldn't have put up the same numbers under Bohl's system, I still think he could end up looking pretty darn impressive, putting up more TD passes at least, running a system closer to an NFL system, and whether it's deserved or not, just winning more games would've given him more notoriety. I don't see how staying another year would've hurt his NFL stock (but of course I'm thinking in terms of it being low right now, much lower than it sounds like most people here have him), but I appreciate the allure of entering the draft and I take him at his word that it wasn't just because of the coaching change.

You're not allowed to have any common sense on here.

Sounds like someone has gotten his feelings hurt....where do we send the tissue so you can dry your tears? You started by being a low life and attacking Brett personally and you call that logic, only in the twisted Stupid Douche world of SDPokeFan. You have asked for and deserved all of the stuff that has been dumped on you because of the thoughtless, moronic attacks that you did against Brett.....and oh yes, you still are a gutless piece of trash.

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

Wow, what a powerful come back, did you have help thinking that up or did you think of that all by yourself? There has been universal condemnation of you because of the lowlife crude ignorant attacks that you have made against Brett Smith, and everything you have said in return has just lowered everyone's opinion of you....if that is possible. The best thing that you can do is to leave before you are banned for being a lowlife.

Blah blah blah blah.

Only 4 "blahs"....your weak mind must be running out of ideas!