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I know Brett Smith said he was staying.

fromolwyoming

fromolwyoming

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But his name is in the 2014 NFL Draft. :?
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I'll take him at his word.....but of course the real indicator is mid-January.....if he hasn't declared by then, you can officially exhale with zero worry.

Until then.....the NFL advisory board looms. I would be surprised if he got a grade that high though.
 
I would watch him play in the NFL as well and not surprised he is picked to go in the 3rd round.
 
If he stayed for his senior year, would he go higher? I think that's the question. Also, the injury issue. What if he sustains an injury his senior year?

I hope he stays. But, the NFL is a QB league, and even if he secures a contract worth a couple of million (Odd that 2 million is a small contract in the NFL today..) he might consider going.
 
Hayduke said:
If he stayed for his senior year, would he go higher? I think that's the question. Also, the injury issue. What if he sustains an injury his senior year?

I hope he stays. But, the NFL is a QB league, and even if he secures a contract worth a couple of million (Odd that 2 million is a small contract in the NFL today..) he might consider going.
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Good point. Tough decision for him no doubt. On one hand, you could argue that he should stay and develop skills under center to get drafted higher. On the other hand, that transition might be tougher for him and the team than expected and actually make Smith look worse next year?

Very interesting dilemma for the young man. I wish him the best regardless of his choice. If I were him and with the change, I would have a hard time staying, regardless. If my dream were the NFL, I would get busy chasing that dream.
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
Hayduke said:
If he stayed for his senior year, would he go higher? I think that's the question. Also, the injury issue. What if he sustains an injury his senior year?

I hope he stays. But, the NFL is a QB league, and even if he secures a contract worth a couple of million (Odd that 2 million is a small contract in the NFL today..) he might consider going.
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Good point. Tough decision for him no doubt. On one hand, you could argue that he should stay and develop skills under center to get drafted higher. On the other hand, that transition might be tougher for him and the team than expected and actually make Smith look worse next year?

Very interesting dilemma for the young man. I wish him the best regardless of his choice. If I were him and with the change, I would have a hard time staying, regardless. If my dream were the NFL, I would get busy chasing that dream.
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I was thinking the same thing, but if the offense is essentially not changing radically, maybe he'd stay? An improved defense (I am an optimist) would give him more snaps. He could light it up in the MWC and make a name for himself nationally. Then, even bigger $$$ with a first or second round pick.

That, of course, is my wishful thinking! :D
 
3rd round............if legit......all loyalties aside, etc. He should go.

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I think Brett is great but I don't buy that he will go that high.

In 2012 only 11 QB were drafted
In 2013 only 11 QB were drafted

They have Brett ranked 9 in this story and ahead of Aaron Murray who I know is hurt but also is the all time leader in the mighty SEC for yards and td thrown I believe. Going from this I think he would slip to the 6 to 7 round area. Coming back for another year is best for him.

But I wouldn't be surprised if he graduates in the summer and transfers (aka Russell Wilson) but with us getting Bohl I think he will stay.
 
One other thing to remember; since the new CBA rookies don't make as much as they used to. If he went in the third round I'm not sure if he'd be able to get a contract worth $2 million a year, maybe with a signing bonus. I'm not sure exactly what the slotting is though.
 
thirtyseven said:
I think Brett is great but I don't buy that he will go that high.

In 2012 only 11 QB were drafted
In 2013 only 11 QB were drafted

They have Brett ranked 9 in this story and ahead of Aaron Murray who I know is hurt but also is the all time leader in the mighty SEC for yards and td thrown I believe. Going from this I think he would slip to the 6 to 7 round area. Coming back for another year is best for him.

But I wouldn't be surprised if he graduates in the summer and transfers (aka Russell Wilson) but with us getting Bohl I think he will stay.
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He has already said he would not transfer to another school. Hasn't said any thing about the NFL though.
 
I was also surprised to see him picked to go that high. My suspicion is that they just looked at stats and didn't really do a scouting type evaluation.

I like Smith and he has been a fantastic QB for us, but putting on my scout hat, I would have a few concerns about him in the NFL. First, he is not a Kap or RGIII in terms of rushing. He would have to be a pocket QB almost entirely, but the good would be that he can run if necessary. As a pocket QB, I'm not sure he has the accuracy required for the NFL. A good scout would have to evaluate if they thought he could develop that. The other big area he would have to develop is progressing through reads. The offense we run now seems to only require 1 maybe 2 reads but the pro-style requires you to go through 2, 3, or 4 progressions in a split second before throwing the ball.

I'm not saying he couldn't learn this and couldn't be successful; all I'm saying is that given where he is at, 3rd round seems high to me too. I'm no NFL scout and could be totally wrong; it will be interesting. I do agree with BJC; if 3rd round is likely, he should go.
 
Not much point in transferring, even if he didn't have to sit out. Either way, he would be learning a new offense under a new HC. Difference is, he would be at a new school and leaving all his teammates behind. If he is 3rd round, and get assurances, I would not hold it against him. But I would love it if he stayed for his senior year, as would most others.
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
I was also surprised to see him picked to go that high. My suspicion is that they just looked at stats and didn't really do a scouting type evaluation.

I like Smith and he has been a fantastic QB for us, but putting on my scout hat, I would have a few concerns about him in the NFL. First, he is not a Kap or RGIII in terms of rushing. He would have to be a pocket QB almost entirely, but the good would be that he can run if necessary. As a pocket QB, I'm not sure he has the accuracy required for the NFL. A good scout would have to evaluate if they thought he could develop that. The other big area he would have to develop is progressing through reads. The offense we run now seems to only require 1 maybe 2 reads but the pro-style requires you to go through 2, 3, or 4 progressions in a split second before throwing the ball.

I'm not saying he couldn't learn this and couldn't be successful; all I'm saying is that given where he is at, 3rd round seems high to me too. I'm no NFL scout and could be totally wrong; it will be interesting. I do agree with BJC; if 3rd round is likely, he should go.
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I disagree with some of what you wrote. Pro scouts from several teams were in the stands for practices and games all season. This is a fact. From what I have heard and read, stats are not what they base their evaluation of a player on. I also doubt very seriously he would be strictly a pocket QB.
 
WYCowboy said:
ragtimejoe1 said:
I was also surprised to see him picked to go that high. My suspicion is that they just looked at stats and didn't really do a scouting type evaluation.

I like Smith and he has been a fantastic QB for us, but putting on my scout hat, I would have a few concerns about him in the NFL. First, he is not a Kap or RGIII in terms of rushing. He would have to be a pocket QB almost entirely, but the good would be that he can run if necessary. As a pocket QB, I'm not sure he has the accuracy required for the NFL. A good scout would have to evaluate if they thought he could develop that. The other big area he would have to develop is progressing through reads. The offense we run now seems to only require 1 maybe 2 reads but the pro-style requires you to go through 2, 3, or 4 progressions in a split second before throwing the ball.

I'm not saying he couldn't learn this and couldn't be successful; all I'm saying is that given where he is at, 3rd round seems high to me too. I'm no NFL scout and could be totally wrong; it will be interesting. I do agree with BJC; if 3rd round is likely, he should go.
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I disagree with some of what you wrote. Pro scouts from several teams were in the stands for practices and games all season. This is a fact. From what I have heard and read, stats are not what they base their evaluation of a player on. I also doubt very seriously he would be strictly a pocket QB.
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Especially with so many NFL teams transitioning to the Pistol and Spread offenses.
 
WYCowboy said:
I disagree with some of what you wrote. Pro scouts from several teams were in the stands for practices and games all season. This is a fact.
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I was speaking about the article not scouting players but going more from stats.

WYCowboy said:
I also doubt very seriously he would be strictly a pocket QB.
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I don't know. The read option in the NFL caught many by surprise last year; it isn't nearly as efficient this year. Give an offseason at least prior to judging Chip Kelly's program. The NFL has the speed to stop it, the strength to injure QBs running it, and a much better ability (than college) to respond to offenses. San Fran was as successful or more so than anyone the last 7 games or so last year at running the read option. It blew up on them this year and they are very much back to their power run game.

I'm not sure that Offense lasts long. All long-term successful QBs must be good pocket QBs first and foremost.
 
I say we focus on what we have control over.
Brett is a great kid and competitor, he may be drafted- or left on the board and offered a try-out.
Under DC discipleship he's not improved since 2011, I don't know what team wants to take him as a project at this stage.
Whether it's Thompson or Smitty we're in good shape. Personally, I'd say it's a push and Thompson's size and athleticism favor him as a bigger potential than Brett. Of course that is just an appraisal based on what we've I've seen personally.

I will always believe Brett to be one the greatest competitors at QB we've had. Wishing him success wherever, and whenever he gets his chance. In the meantime, I'm optimistic with Bohl and what his vision may entail.
 
The thing about going the NFL route is there are a lot of QB's in this years draft that while they may not have performed better than Brett they definitely had teams that supported their QB better.
 
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