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Hardest job in America

I've always wished UW would just lean into what they really are. They need to quit pretending that they are a top tier research university in a beautiful place with lots of things to do/opportunities.

Here's the reality: UW is a school where you can get an adequate education at a decent value in a small town set in a barren landscape. It's cold, and probably windy, for 8 months out of the year. But those 4 months from June-September provide some of the best weather you can find anywhere in the country during that time. There aren't any nightclubs, or really any nightlife in general, besides going to a party/bar and drinking copious amounts of alcohol.

My message to prospective students/athletes would be: "If you want what everybody else wants, go someplace else - you won't be happy here. But if you are different - someone who values the hard work, the grind, the toughness that it takes to live in a place like Laramie, then you will excel here. Only tough SOB's make it here - come join your kind".
 

Reads like a WYO manifesto. A message we've been selling for the past 20 years or so.
Those are the problems - for sure. The question is: what are we going to do to address them? I'm seeing NADA out of Old Main and the AD's office.
 
I've always wished UW would just lean into what they really are. They need to quit pretending that they are a top tier research university in a beautiful place with lots of things to do/opportunities.

Here's the reality: UW is a school where you can get an adequate education at a decent value in a small town set in a barren landscape. It's cold, and probably windy, for 8 months out of the year. But those 4 months from June-September provide some of the best weather you can find anywhere in the country during that time. There aren't any nightclubs, or really any nightlife in general, besides going to a party/bar and drinking copious amounts of alcohol.

My message to prospective students/athletes would be: "If you want what everybody else wants, go someplace else - you won't be happy here. But if you are different - someone who values the hard work, the grind, the toughness that it takes to live in a place like Laramie, then you will excel here. Only tough SOB's make it here - come join your kind".
Sounds like a questionable marketing strategy.

But I agree with you about the value. We used to be a great value, but not anymore. It’s very expensive for an out of state student
 
I've always wished UW would just lean into what they really are. They need to quit pretending that they are a top tier research university in a beautiful place with lots of things to do/opportunities.

Here's the reality: UW is a school where you can get an adequate education at a decent value in a small town set in a barren landscape. It's cold, and probably windy, for 8 months out of the year. But those 4 months from June-September provide some of the best weather you can find anywhere in the country during that time. There aren't any nightclubs, or really any nightlife in general, besides going to a party/bar and drinking copious amounts of alcohol.

My message to prospective students/athletes would be: "If you want what everybody else wants, go someplace else - you won't be happy here. But if you are different - someone who values the hard work, the grind, the toughness that it takes to live in a place like Laramie, then you will excel here. Only tough SOB's make it here - come join your kind".
It was more than just "adequate" in Engineering. There was a direct pipeline from UW to the Naval Air Warfare Center Weapons Division at the time I was hired. A lot of UW alum worked there, and there still a lot of us today. Not so many new folk, however. The UW engineering school was tops at one time, not sure where it is these days with all of the BS happening....
 
It was more than just "adequate" in Engineering. There was a direct pipeline from UW to the Naval Air Warfare Center Weapons Division at the time I was hired. A lot of UW alum worked there, and there still a lot of us today. Not so many new folk, however. The UW engineering school was tops at one time, not sure where it is these days with all of the BS happening....
I can tell you where US news ranked the engineering program at UW. 156th out of 209 programs. I believe this is actually the lowest ranking amongst current MWC schools, so they can’t even claim regional academic excellence.

That’s not to say you can’t get a good job with an engineering degree from UW. It’s also not to say there aren’t good engineers that graduate from UW. But UW isn’t going to convince many kids (and their parents) to come to UW based on academics alone. It’s just a reality that UW needs to face.
 

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