Fire Bohl

[wyokoke]

Well considering Tanner ran it almost as much as he was thrown at, no I don't think that him not being there was the reason we went from a 45/55 split, about where you want to be, to a 12/88, more unbalanced than many triple option teams.

 

[HR_Poke]

Let us know when you actually make a cogent point. You haven't as of yet.

 

[nashvillepoke]

Did you watch the post game at all? Even reading between the lines Coffman seemed to imtimate that losing Gentry was big.

I mean this with all respect, and not Talledega Nights-wise, but do you think this did not have an impact on the play calling after this?

Not having Gentry hurt, but the young guys need to learn to step up, or they will never be more than role players. Up 3 touchdowns is the perfect time to learn. I almost think this could be a trust issue with Coffman as opposed to Gentry out.

 

[WyoBrandX]

I agree. Most of the 4th quarter and some of the third - after we quit passing - you'd see the entire defense line up tight - they weren't even playing the pass.

At one point, we did a play action pass and burnt them good. Our playcalling did nothing to keep Nevada honest and let them right back into the game. The 3rd and 4th quarter could have easily been a shootout instead of watching our lead dwindle away.

That will work when your defense is decent enough to stop the other team occasionally. But it ain't going to work much the rest of the season.

 

[NebraskaCowboy]

I had no problem with the play calling. Everyone knew what was coming. They were going to methodically run the ball and try and impose their will to win that game. This would allow them to kill the clock, control the game, and put Nevada's back against the wall. And for the most part, it worked and I didn't have too much of a problem with it. If we had a field goal kicker this wouldn't even be a conversation because any points would have been enough to ice it. We won in the end so not too worried.

 

[fromolwyoming]

I had no problem with the play calling. Everyone knew what was coming. They were going to methodically run the ball and try and impose their will to win that game. This would allow them to kill the clock, control the game, and put Nevada's back against the wall. And for the most part, it worked and I didn't have too much of a problem with it. If we had a field goal kicker this wouldn't even be a conversation because any points would have been enough to ice it. We won in the end so not too worried.

If there's about 5 minutes left in the game or up a lot more than 7-14 points, pounding the ball would not be a problem. Part way through the 3rd quarter only up 3 scores? Nearly pissed it all away

 

[NebraskaCowboy]

I had no problem with the play calling. Everyone knew what was coming. They were going to methodically run the ball and try and impose their will to win that game. This would allow them to kill the clock, control the game, and put Nevada's back against the wall. And for the most part, it worked and I didn't have too much of a problem with it. If we had a field goal kicker this wouldn't even be a conversation because any points would have been enough to ice it. We won in the end so not too worried.

If there's about 5 minutes left in the game or up a lot more than 7-14 points, pounding the ball would not be a problem. Part way through the 3rd quarter only up 3 scores? Nearly pissed it all away

We had 6 second half possessions. The opening one was a touchdown, the last one iced the game. We had two three and outs following the touchdown but were up 28-14. We then had a 13 play, 57 yard drive that took up 7:03 off the clock resulting in a missed field goal. Hit that field and nothing else needs to be said. I know our field goal kicking hasn't been great but I don't have to much of a problem with that. If you hit the field goal there it becomes a 3 possession football game in the 4th quarter.

 

[fromolwyoming]

I had no problem with the play calling. Everyone knew what was coming. They were going to methodically run the ball and try and impose their will to win that game. This would allow them to kill the clock, control the game, and put Nevada's back against the wall. And for the most part, it worked and I didn't have too much of a problem with it. If we had a field goal kicker this wouldn't even be a conversation because any points would have been enough to ice it. We won in the end so not too worried.

If there's about 5 minutes left in the game or up a lot more than 7-14 points, pounding the ball would not be a problem. Part way through the 3rd quarter only up 3 scores? Nearly pissed it all away

We had 6 second half possessions. The opening one was a touchdown, the last one iced the game. We had two three and outs following the touchdown but were up 28-14. We then had a 13 play, 57 yard drive that took up 7:03 off the clock resulting in a missed field goal. Hit that field and nothing else needs to be said. I know our field goal kicking hasn't been great but I don't have to much of a problem with that. If you hit the field goal there it becomes a 3 possession football game in the 4th quarter.

But we've had FG issues all season. You always have to take that into consideration. And just "run run run" will not get you by every team you come across. It barely worked against Nevada. Against a team that actually has a defense? Well, let's just say I don't BSU or USU getting pushed around like that.

 

[MedievalPoke]

So what do you suggest on the FG drive? It was methodical, it burned up clock, and it was effective. However, the fact that our kicker is lucky to hit somewhere behind the goal posts to either side means that it was a negative.

Sure, the game went conservative. In part that is exactly what the coaches said - they don't trust the kids to make the big plays at those times. Still, a TD, a long drive to ice it, and the failed field goal drive were three quality drives in the second half. The problem was that the weapon that the OC counted on was gone, either on the variant jet sweep or the downfield pass.

Now we are damning the team for not padding the stats and slinging it around when we were damning the team for having to sling it around late and padding the stats playing from behind on previous weeks.

I would have liked to have the depth to play a more complete 4th quarter. The Cowboys don't have that.

Also, I would like to say that my previous posts in this thread may...may have been posted with a bit of beer behind them.

 

[fromolwyoming]

"Padding the stats" would be if we went from 35 to 42 points while they were still at 7. Securing the win in the 3rd/4th would have been to keep the offense balanced and get at least 1 more TD.

 

[WYCowboy]

I think there are times to go conservative, but not go super conservative in the middle of the 3rd qtr. We were hanging on by a thread at the end and were just plain lucky in some instances.

 

[MedievalPoke]

I think that there will be times in the coming years when we all are yelling "goddammit" in the 4th quarter during games. This style seems to be what the coaches want as well.

 

[Hayduke]

Kicking game is one of many problems yet to be solved.

You'd think there would be a decent walk on that would enjoy having half of the games at 7220 feet?

Obviously not.

 

[McPeachy]

I think there are times to go conservative, but not go super conservative in the middle of the 3rd qtr. We were hanging on by a thread at the end and were just plain lucky in some instances.

Agree. But I see why he did. It is the Joe Glenn mentality - limit the possessions (and amount of time of possession) the other team has (when you have a 3 score + lead), and you are likely to win (odds favor it). Sure would be nice to not do though.

 

[HR_Poke]

I think there are times to go conservative, but not go super conservative in the middle of the 3rd qtr. We were hanging on by a thread at the end and were just plain lucky in some instances.

Agree. But I see why he did. It is the Joe Glenn mentality - limit the possessions (and amount of time of possession) the other team has (when you have a 3 score + lead), and you are likely to win (odds favor it). Sure would be nice to not do though.

I see why he did it too. But Nevada ran a hurry up attack that our defense couldn't even get their hands off their hips and get set before they snapped the ball. TOP is worthless if the other team keeps scoring in short order.

And you could tell Vigen was like Oh shyt! on the last drive because he started going back to things other than run up the gut. It just would be nice to see him call a complete game and maintain control instead of worrying about TOP.

 

[McPeachy]

I think there are times to go conservative, but not go super conservative in the middle of the 3rd qtr. We were hanging on by a thread at the end and were just plain lucky in some instances.

Agree. But I see why he did. It is the Joe Glenn mentality - limit the possessions (and amount of time of possession) the other team has (when you have a 3 score + lead), and you are likely to win (odds favor it). Sure would be nice to not do though.

I see why he did it too. But Nevada ran a hurry up attack that our defense couldn't even get their hands off their hips and get set before they snapped the ball. TOP is worthless if the other team keeps scoring in short order.

As it clearly was for us, the last 25 or so minutes of the game (TOP being worthless).

Shocked that Stannard dialed up a blitz on 4th and 5 - great call in my opinion, and one I thought he would probably never make. Vigen was the goat if there was a coaching goat last Saturday...

 

[HR_Poke]

I think there are times to go conservative, but not go super conservative in the middle of the 3rd qtr. We were hanging on by a thread at the end and were just plain lucky in some instances.

Agree. But I see why he did. It is the Joe Glenn mentality - limit the possessions (and amount of time of possession) the other team has (when you have a 3 score + lead), and you are likely to win (odds favor it). Sure would be nice to not do though.

I see why he did it too. But Nevada ran a hurry up attack that our defense couldn't even get their hands off their hips and get set before they snapped the ball. TOP is worthless if the other team keeps scoring in short order.

As it clearly was for us, the last 25 or so minutes of the game (TOP being worthless).

Shocked that Stannard dialed up a blitz on 4th and 5 - great call in my opinion, and one I thought he would probably never make. Vigen was the goat if there was a coaching goat last Saturday...

I was shocked to see it too. Their entire defensive scheme is to play it safe. I'm glad it happened, and I wish it would happen more often.