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Bohl Article (FOX Sports)

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Bruce Feldman will always hold a special place in my heart for his coverage of Mike Leach and how Craig James acted after that Texas Tech incident. And this article is always nice to get the message out on Bohl and how hopefully he will be a perfect fit at Wyoming.

But, whoever came up with the headline on this article can fuck right off. So sick of reading this tired shit.
 
One of the first big changes Bohl made was "double repping," where two sets of offensive and defensive units are running plays at all times.

"It's definitely different for sure," said Rufran. "But it does give everybody on the team a fair chance, and that way you're not gonna have many Negative Nancies trying to say they never had a shot (to show what they could do.)"
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Guess we definitely saw who those were. Good on you for calling it the way it is, Rufran.
 
Asmodeanreborn said:
One of the first big changes Bohl made was "double repping," where two sets of offensive and defensive units are running plays at all times.

"It's definitely different for sure," said Rufran. "But it does give everybody on the team a fair chance, and that way you're not gonna have many Negative Nancies trying to say they never had a shot (to show what they could do.)"
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Guess we definitely saw who those were. Good on you for calling it the way it is, Rufran.
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That said, once Rufran heals up and can get back into practice, I think he'll be 1st string. He proved to be our most reliable reciever last season.
 
hithere said:
But, whoever came up with the headline on this article can fuck right off. So sick of reading this tired shit.
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I'm curious then, which job is tougher?

Maybe not FBS' toughest, but probably is in the Gang of 5 and up, no?
 
Worse jobs IMO maybe not in prestige or pay with some, but in difficulty to win and compete in your conference given; resources, fan support, tradition, facilities, competition, etc. Though our athletic administration makes me want to reconsider.

NMSU
Idaho
Utah St
Temple
Kansas
Indiana
North Texas
UAB
ODU
Akron
Buffalo
CMU
UNLV
Colorado State- anymore we're about even given the strides they're making and the strides we are not.
WMU
EMU
Kent State
UMASS
FIU
Nevada
Hawaii
SJSU
Georgia St
South Alabama
ULM
Washington State- honorable mention, also very tought to recruit to and compete with the other PAC12 schools, great fans
Iowa State- Honorable mention, very tough to recruit to. Only saving grace is BIG 12
Wake Forest- Very tough to compete in ACC
Memphis? Don't know much about it.
Troy? No idea.
ULL- Nobody got it done before their current coach.
Minnesota? Good fans, good facilities, very very difficult for them to be competitive but Kill is getting it done right now.
Northern Illinois? Had a lot of success recently. Coaches just keep plugging them in. Still don't know if its a "better job"
UCONN- I don't know, seems like a pretty crappy job.
Rutgers and Maryland- Good luck to them in ever competing in the B1G. I thought about adding Illinois to that list, but if they could ever galvinize that state they could be in business.
 
I don't see how any of the BCS jobs are tougher than ours.
Even if it is Indiana or Wazzu or Wake Forest.
They will get better recruits than we do simply because of conference affiliation. And Wazzu showed that if you get the right coach, you can turn the team into a contender. Since Mike Leach has showed up, they have beaten Washington in the Apple Cup and made a bowl game (should have won it), and the starting QB from his first year at Wazzu ended up starting for the Bills in the NFL last season.
Now they have quite a few 4 star recruits. They are going to compete.

I don't know that any coaching spot in the the state of Texas or California is tougher than here. They will continually get instate recruits that get overlooked by BCS conferences. Yeah they might not be good, but we get kids with FCS offers so...

UConn played in a BCS Bowl a couple years ago. Rutgers and Maryland in the Big10...Their recruiting is going to get better.

Utah State? Well, they have beaten the living hell out of us recently, and Logan is a nice town, and not too far away from a city in its own state. They can get recruits from the state of Utah that is always sending players to Utah and BYU.

We are one of the toughest jobs for sure.
 
Yes but we're grading on a curve here. The argument was not based on recruiting, at least in terms of the BCS schools. The argument was are any of those schools mentioned closer to winning a conference championship in their conference than we are in ours? I would say no except for maybe wazzu, but they are nowhere close either. They are as competitive in their league with leach as we were the first couple years of the DC era in ours. Utah State, I don't know. They're the country school in their state. Their recruiting base is definitely better than ours. Their facilities right now are meh, fan support meh, budget is lower. They could be turning a corner. They were in the dumpster not too long ago, a Jacob doss led joe Glenn team beat them 24-7 in 06. They have only recently struck gold especially now in the MW. I'll say the same for SJSU. Better weather. Better football? Meh. There are still lots of schools on that list besides. Toughest job no. Top 5 no. Top 20, right now especially with our administration, very possible.
 
And as someone who attended NMSU, hence "lascrucespoke", I don't know why it's soooo much harder to win Las Cruces than Laramie, but it is. Go hang out with those guys, we'll tell you what it's really like to be on the bottom. We have one winning season in like 30 years, one bowl appearance EVER, and had no conference this year. When I get there the first thing I noticed is their facilities and atmosphere versus Wyoming's made the pokes look like the New England Patriots. Think about how sad that is.
 
"The" toughest job? I don't know about that. One of the toughest jobs? Absolutely. The Power 5 are breaking off....anyone not in those conferences gets a check mark in the difficulty column. Wyoming is secluded, and happens to be cold often. The program exists in one the United States' least populated states, making recruiting local kids very hard. FBS talent is not abundant. Sure, places like Idaho, NMSU, among others can be deemed tougher. But yes, Wyoming is one of the toughest jobs in the FBS. If it weren't, this topic would be deemed ridiculously off-based by any reasonable individual. That headline would not exist if it weren't in the realm of truth.
 
BackHarlowRoad said:
BeaverPoke said:
We are THE toughest job for sure.
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Do you believe Wyoming made a mistake firing DC then?

For reference, there were 41 FBS teams with lower winning percentages over his tenure. That's not great, since there were 80 teams with better winning percentages, but if we are the toughest job, that's pretty impressive.

My opinion is that DC's overall results mirror our relative position in FBS. In terms of budgets, we are right in the same range (80th or so, depends on which numbers you use). I felt that DC's performance was declining and that combined with negative publicity for other actions warranted a change.
 
LasCrucesPoke said:
And as someone who attended NMSU, hence "lascrucespoke", I don't know why it's soooo much harder to win Las Cruces than Laramie, but it is. Go hang out with those guys, we'll tell you what it's really like to be on the bottom. We have one winning season in like 30 years, one bowl appearance EVER, and had no conference this year. When I get there the first thing I noticed is their facilities and atmosphere versus Wyoming's made the pokes look like the New England Patriots. Think about how sad that is.
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NMSU and Idaho are the toughest jobs. Between the conference issues, historical weakness, and facility issues (Idaho especially), they have to be at the top.

At least NMSU has basketball to look forward to every fall.
 
Ha yeah exactly. Baseball and basketball keep the fans there alive. Well and the amazing weather, food, and golf.
 
LasCrucesPoke said:
Yes but we're grading on a curve here. The argument was not based on recruiting, at least in terms of the BCS schools. The argument was are any of those schools mentioned closer to winning a conference championship in their conference than we are in ours? I would say no except for maybe wazzu, but they are nowhere close either. They are as competitive in their league with leach as we were the first couple years of the DC era in ours. Utah State, I don't know. They're the country school in their state. Their recruiting base is definitely better than ours. Their facilities right now are meh, fan support meh, budget is lower. They could be turning a corner. They were in the dumpster not too long ago, a Jacob doss led joe Glenn team beat them 24-7 in 06. They have only recently struck gold especially now in the MW. I'll say the same for SJSU. Better weather. Better football? Meh. There are still lots of schools on that list besides. Toughest job no. Top 5 no. Top 20, right now especially with our administration, very possible.
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Are you kidding me?
Utah State played in the conference championship game last season!

How are we closer to winning a conference title than them? They are returning Chuckie Keaton this season. We lost Brett Smith AND the back up who was going to replace him.

I thought I wore the brown and gold glasses here.

We are so far behind with the departure of Brett Smith it's not even funny.
 
BeaverPoke said:
Are you kidding me?
Utah State played in the conference championship game last season!

How are we closer to winning a conference title than them? They are returning Chuckie Keaton this season. We lost Brett Smith AND the back up who was going to replace him.

I thought I wore the brown and gold glasses here.

We are so far behind with the departure of Brett Smith it's not even funny.
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Meh.....USU will be doing some major rebuilding in 2015. Attrition and coaches leaving make it hard on a small budget program. Plus, they've played the MW's easiest schedule by far. They only played two MW teams with winning records in Boise and CSU, CSU they won 13-0....Boise's worst team in 15 years beat the shit out of them for 3 quarters in Logan before the dogs were called off. Don't get me wrong, USU has made huge improvements....but ask me again in 2017, and I'd bet we won't be talking about them like this anymore.

It was only 4 years ago that Nevada and Hawaii were winning programs and had bright futures. The life of a non-P5 school is hard.....success is hard to sustain. Today's contenders could be tomorrow's pretenders. Small budgets = playing on borrowed time. Eventually, they'll tumble back down if they do not increase that $$$$$$ big time. Sad reality.

$$$$$ is the name of the game folks.
 
You're picking and choosing what I'm writing and somehow putting different parts of different points together. I'm not going to go around in circles.
 
Long winded, pompous rant ahead.

I'm of the opinion that trying to quantify one of about 125 jobs in the country that start out paying high six figures is counter productive. Saying that one of these FBS coaching gigs is tough is, to me, a perpetuation of an excuse. Trying to be the tallest midget and attempting to subjectively rank these highly coveted positions further segregates institutions by perception, in my opinion. I couldn't give less than than two and half fucks what FBS jobs are "harder". It doesn't matter. Coaching Alabama or Florida would give most coaches, no matter how gifted, their ulcers, clogged aortas and hemorrhoids their own strokes from the stress. It takes a special kind to endure that level of scrutiny. Same vein, it takes a special kind to want to coach at Wyoming and sustain success. The last one who did retired in Buffalo because he liked it so much.

Of course Laramie is different than most of the other locations that fund FBS teams every year. Besides the academic issues that have come to light recently that apparently seem to sandbag coaches from the start, there are other issues that would preclude a national sports writer like Feldman into presupposing that being in Laramie to some is highly desirable. Some gifted athletes actually wanted to play for a Wyoming coach or spend four years of their life in BFE Wyoming instead of Ames. And while I don't share the mentality of some that wish to portray Wyoming as a piece of stool, boot stain job because of any number of excuses. I understand that it's easier to fall back on negatives than it is to embrace the positives. Believe me, I don't live in Wyoming anymore for a reason. It's not for everyone. But it is a perfect fit for some and I personally remember and defend both the bad and good to anyone who will listen. In my case, not many.

I'm not so naive to think that UW will ever be on the same level anymore as schools with four times the budget; there is a glaring difference though in setting a goal to be in the upper half of a have-not conference as opposed to actually trying to excel and be the best possible program among peer institutions and rivals. But I know, I know. It's so hard to do that. I most assuredly don't understand the difficulty of it all.

I agree with NowherePoke (and I'm paraphrasing, not speaking for him) in the sense that how one views UW in the grand scheme of things is how one is going to be satisfied with wins and losses. If one deems just getting by, fielding a team every year and playing with brown and gold uniforms so they can be proud to watch twelve times a year while a group of players gets their collective scrotums pulled over their heads by the Cal-Poly's of the world or if Fresno State comes to Laramie in November and wins for the first time ever and by 40+ points to boot doesn't bother you that much, then agreeing that Wyoming is such a hard place to coach a winning football team probably will be regurgitated over and over again to justify poor to mediocre performance. Dave Christensen couldn't have ended up at a more fitting place than the State of Utah as power bottom coaching under his good buddy and BYU grad, Kyle Whittingham.
 
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