Big East

[YankPoke]

With the seven catholic schools either going to leave or dissolve the conference the Big East is practically done. I think it is likely they will try to dissolve and use the same name while making it a non football school while poaching some schools from the A10.

That being said it leaves the five teams out right now. I think with this Boise and SDSU come back to the Mountain West, and here is an idea for Craig Thompson since it seems the ACC and Big 10 don't want UConn or Cincinatti go out and offer them membership as well. They have their major sports being basketball and with our basketball being where it is right now we could be a interesting offer for them, we might be more attractive than the Big 12 with how bad their bball is right now so this would be our best opportunity to grab some big name schools and it would allow us to get a pretty good television and media deal, also this gives the conference more media with UConn being ESPN favorite we will get more national exposure which is good for us. Our conference would then be 14 teams, 2 divisions in football with a title game and a league like the Big East has currently in basketball and it would be a very good one too.

 

[Wyo2dal]

Posted it in another thread will say it again the 5 smaller conferences will never see anything related to the top 4 play off system and they will make sure they never have to pay out to those 5 smaller conferences. I hope SDSU and BSU burn their programs to the ground on cross country trips.


But I hope in the future the commissioners from the 5 smaller conferences come to the realization the top BCS conferences want nothing to do with them and they have no intention ever letting them get their hands in the new BCS cookie jar and create their own play off system.

 

[BeachPoke]

The probelm with the idea of move to our own.. the TV mogules will not give us anything close to what this new system give us...the big 5 take what they were giving us and make more$$$$$$....Its sad to see what greed has done to CF..

 

[Wyo2dal]

The probelm with the idea of move to our own.. the TV mogules will not give us anything close to what this new system give us...the big 5 take what they were giving us and make more$$$$$$....Its sad to see what greed has done to CF..

That isn't really true, I didn't say scrap the table scraps they are willing to feed us. I said form our own play off system out of those 5 conferences. So if you have 5 smaller conferences and form a 6 team play off system you could easily market it out to sporting broadcasts would be be as high and mighty as the BCS no but we aren't included in that anyway so why not make those other 5 conferences feel that the work they put in is worth something.

Old and new BCS alike is just a sandbox for ESPN and the conferences they want they could give a rats ass about the rest of us.

 

[fromolwyoming]

Right now the MWC board is blowing up. BSU fans (minus some real crazies) are coming around to joining back up, but SUDS fans are still in denial and seem to think a national conference with the Least cast offs will somehow be a good thing.
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[Wyo2dal]

Either they end up in the Big Flop or stay MWC and either way money is more here less there and they never see a NC chance they can't seem to get it into their head that being in the Big Flop does nothing for them at all.

 

[stymeman]

it sure ain't about the college football fan any longer, it's grasping at the $$ straws anymore, really sad...i want them to stay and it'll probably be last minute

 

[J-Rod]

The talk of a "best of the rest" conference is heating up. One where the top remaining "MWC, C-USA, and Big East" schools consolidate power and essentially secure that "Group of 5" auto-bid to the BCS, as well as maximizing the T.V. marketability. (aka, another MWC-like break off) At the end of the day, its clear few schools want anything to do with the front range schools. Its a T.V. market hell that's the anchor of any conference. I don't think this going to end well for Wyoming one way or the other. College football is now primarily about money and T.V. markets. Something UW cannot offer right now.

 

[Wyo2dal]

The talk of a "best of the rest" conference is heating up. One where the top remaining "MWC, C-USA, and Big East" schools consolidate power and essentially secure that "Group of 5" auto-bid to the BCS, as well as maximizing the T.V. marketability. (aka, another MWC-like break off) At the end of the day, its clear few schools want anything to do with the front range schools. Its a T.V. market hell that's the anchor of any conference. I don't think this going to end well for Wyoming one way or the other. College football is now primarily about money and T.V. markets. Something UW cannot offer right now.

I went back and re-read that BS 4-5 times and here is what I get out of this bullshit.

The 4 team play off system will completely exclude anything outside of the power conferences for a national championship consideration. What the 1 spot for the 5 smaller conferences gets is a bowl game for revenue and that is it. That means that CUSA/MWC/BE the top team will get into a bowl game but by no means does that get them into the play off system. What this new system has done is without a doubt guarantee that no small school will ever have the opportunity to get into the NC picture.

So what really needs to happen is all these small conferences need to get together and create a play off system that happens at the end of the regular season to crown a mid major champion. They need to open their eyes and see that they are no longer included in NCAA FBS football for NC consideration they are merely there to be the upset of a top school or be laughed at by those same top schools.

If those commissioners of those conferences can come to an agreement there is a way the mid majors could still be something but it would require the conferences to basically form a new system and quit picking each other apart because the only realignment that will truly matter in the end is if you get into a power conference. If you aren't in a power conference you are just window shopping.

 

[J-Rod]

I went back and re-read that BS 4-5 times and here is what I get out of this bullshit.

The 4 team play off system will completely exclude anything outside of the power conferences for a national championship consideration. What the 1 spot for the 5 smaller conferences gets is a bowl game for revenue and that is it. That means that CUSA/MWC/BE the top team will get into a bowl game but by no means does that get them into the play off system. What this new system has done is without a doubt guarantee that no small school will ever have the opportunity to get into the NC picture.

That is all true. The fruit being dangled in front of us is a BCS bowl game.....this is supposed to shut everybody up because we now have "access". :roll:

I've felt since this stuff came out, that now that its official: formerly known as "non-AQ schools" have no hope of winning a national championship, what are we doing here? Are we going to continue this charade making like we're still "Division 1 Football". Get real. The big boys have taken their ball and gone somewhere else to play, and we can only watch from the playground. Time to quit feeding their bowl games and split off altogether and start an FCS-like playoff for all the remaining (MWC, C-USA, etc.) schools.

 

[Wyo2dal]

I went back and re-read that BS 4-5 times and here is what I get out of this bullshit.

The 4 team play off system will completely exclude anything outside of the power conferences for a national championship consideration. What the 1 spot for the 5 smaller conferences gets is a bowl game for revenue and that is it. That means that CUSA/MWC/BE the top team will get into a bowl game but by no means does that get them into the play off system. What this new system has done is without a doubt guarantee that no small school will ever have the opportunity to get into the NC picture.

That is all true. The fruit being dangled in front of us is a BCS bowl game.....this is supposed to shut everybody up because we now have "access". :roll:

I've felt since this stuff came out, that now that its official: formerly known as "non-AQ schools" have no hope of winning a national championship, what are we doing here? Are we going to continue this charade making like we're still "Division 1 Football". Get real. The big boys have taken their ball and gone somewhere else to play, and we can only watch from the playground. Time to quit feeding their bowl games and split off altogether and start an FCS-like playoff for all the remaining (MWC, C-USA, etc.) schools.

This has to happen the smaller conferences can't keep picking each other apart they have to come into the realization that at this point we would be better off forming that Nation Wide super conference that would include all the small guys. You better believe that there is TV money in there somewhere for a large league play off system much like the NFL style shorten regular season add play offs at the end. Have your division leaders and your wild cards then your mid major play offs and super bowl.

We will never be eligible for anything unless those commissioners step up and make this happen. It definitely could happen it's a matter of removing the wool that the BCS pulled over everyone's eyes and refusing to schedule games with the power conferences. Make their system benefit them without our help otherwise were just going to be the rag doll they throw around.

 

[J-Rod]

This has to happen the smaller conferences can't keep picking each other apart they have to come into the realization that at this point we would be better off forming that Nation Wide super conference that would include all the small guys. You better believe that there is TV money in there somewhere for a large league play off system much like the NFL style shorten regular season add play offs at the end. Have your division leaders and your wild cards then your mid major play offs and super bowl.

We will never be eligible for anything unless those commissioners step up and make this happen. It definitely could happen it's a matter of removing the wool that the BCS pulled over everyone's eyes and refusing to schedule games with the power conferences. Make their system benefit them without our help otherwise were just going to be the rag doll they throw around.

We can only hope. OOC games against Arkansas Pine-Bluff for the rest of eternity for these super conferences. Lets see how they like that.

So sick of all this bullshit. I watched all those FCS playoff games this past Saturday and honestly, felt really stupid. Man those fans look sad, don't they? Them and their silly playoff games. They suffer night and day from inferiority complexes, wishing they could join the mess that is FBS football. NOT!!!! :roll: That was impressive and entertaining stuff. Nothing like playoff football. Fuck all those higher ups in college football. Lets spit off already and go back to enjoying the game again. Like it used to be, when football wasn't primarily about money.

On another note, THIS is exactly what everyone fears right now : https://twitter.com/murphsturph/status/279285971114147840" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This will only get uglier. :thumbdown:

 

[WyoBrandX]

The talk of a "best of the rest" conference is heating up. One where the top remaining "MWC, C-USA, and Big East" schools consolidate power and essentially secure that "Group of 5" auto-bid to the BCS, as well as maximizing the T.V. marketability. (aka, another MWC-like break off) At the end of the day, its clear few schools want anything to do with the front range schools. Its a T.V. market hell that's the anchor of any conference. I don't think this going to end well for Wyoming one way or the other. College football is now primarily about money and T.V. markets. Something UW cannot offer right now.

It just depends on how "they" want to look at it. We have one of the largest fan bases in the MWC (I think #2 behind boise right now).

San Diego State has a large city but not a very big fan base. Does it matter how big the media market is when nobody watches?

I'm about to say eff it and quit watching college football. The greedy bastards are just flat out ruining it. At the end of the day this is all about getting people educated for real life. The greedy bastards aren't teaching students any morals or setting good examples. They aren't fulfilling their missions anymore. Very, very, very sad.

 

[fromolwyoming]

The talk of a "best of the rest" conference is heating up. One where the top remaining "MWC, C-USA, and Big East" schools consolidate power and essentially secure that "Group of 5" auto-bid to the BCS, as well as maximizing the T.V. marketability. (aka, another MWC-like break off) At the end of the day, its clear few schools want anything to do with the front range schools. Its a T.V. market hell that's the anchor of any conference. I don't think this going to end well for Wyoming one way or the other. College football is now primarily about money and T.V. markets. Something UW cannot offer right now.

It just depends on how "they" want to look at it. We have one of the largest fan bases in the MWC (I think #2 behind boise right now).

San Diego State has a large city but not a very big fan base. Does it matter how big the media market is when nobody watches?

I'm about to say eff it and quit watching college football. The greedy bastards are just flat out ruining it. At the end of the day this is all about getting people educated for real life. The greedy bastards aren't teaching students any morals or setting good examples. They aren't fulfilling their missions anymore. Very, very, very sad.

Apparently so. Look at C-USA (now Sunbelt/FCS 2.0) and the Least (C-USA 2.0). Both have a lot of schools in huge cities, but aside form Cinci and maybe UConn, none of them delivers much of it all. Like Temple in Philly. Philly is freaking huge, but Temple has barely any market penetration. Another good example is SMU. Right in the heart of Dallas, and they're lucky to break 10,000 a game.

 

[Wyo2dal]

This is the first year that I can ever remember having no reason to watch any Bowl Game. There just isn't one Bowl game that interests me and the more I see the power conferences crying over not having 100% of the pie instead of only 99.5% of it just makes me sick.

At least College Basketball still has Mach Madness and no matter what happens the tourny time is always an exciting time. Football has become so much about the $$ it's not even about Football anymore.

I would laugh my ass off if the FBS outcast conferences just flat out refused to schedule any of the power conferences. Make it so they have to play the same teams year in and year out and see how they feel at the end when there is nothing and it's always the same shit.

This new BCS system has completely eliminated us from getting BCS money why should we all continue to be the ragdoll they beat up on.

 

[fromolwyoming]

This is the first year that I can ever remember having no reason to watch any Bowl Game. There just isn't one Bowl game that interests me and the more I see the power conferences crying over not having 100% of the pie instead of only 99.5% of it just makes me sick.

At least College Basketball still has Mach Madness and no matter what happens the tourny time is always an exciting time. Football has become so much about the $$ it's not even about Football anymore.

I would laugh my ass off if the FBS outcast conferences just flat out refused to schedule any of the power conferences. Make it so they have to play the same teams year in and year out and see how they feel at the end when there is nothing and it's always the same shit.

This new BCS system has completely eliminated us from getting BCS money why should we all continue to be the ragdoll they beat up on.

What about K-State vs Oregon and Notre Dame (Manti Teo) vs Texas A&M (Johnny Manziel)?

 

[Wyo2dal]

No interest at all so disappointed in what College Football has become.

 

[phxpoke]

Do you really think Wyoming will quit playing the "big boys?" They will always take the pay check, and then market the game as- Wyoming, "The Little State that has a shot a knocking off the Giant" Sometimes, when we schedule these games, I feel like we are The Washington Generals.

I love the idea of the mid majors all breaking away, but I fear, they too, will always chase the fame and money...

 

[Wyo2dal]

Do you really think Wyoming will quit playing the "big boys?" They will always take the pay check, and then market the game as- Wyoming, "The Little State that has a shot a knocking off the Giant" Sometimes, when we schedule these games, I feel like we are The Washington Generals.

I love the idea of the mid majors all breaking away, but I fear, they too, will always chase the fame and money...

I know they won't but it would be really nice to see all the Mid Majors stand up for themselves and tell the BCS conferences to f off. Problem is no matter who we knock off now it will never matter.

Wyoming or any of the 5 conference teams could go undefeated against top 10 teams 4 years straight and it wouldn't matter because the small conferences don't get a spot in the top 4 team play off system. What theywould get would be 4 years worth of Fiesta Bowl equivalency.

Is it a better Bowl than the New Mexico Bowl? Sure is but does it really matter now that all the Bowls will be gone? Not really.