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Are all these bodybag games to pay for a facility or budget?

I think the point is that adding baseball and a woman's sport for title 9 is a non-issue when we can't even fund our football team and basketball team currently.
 
Perhaps with Strength of Schedule coming into play for the playoffs the Top 5 conference schools are looking to schedule more g5 type schools like Wyo instead of FCS teams? Might be willing to pay quite a bit frankly. Also with Iowa a Bohl recruiting ground that game makes sense.

A school needs to have a complete and well rounded athletic program. Can't be a one trick pony. Swimming needs the $$

Laramie simply does not have the weather to be a big baseball town. Old team was gone most of the spring and few home games and those were often snowed out
 
BeaverPoke said:
How is baseball a dying sport? The contracts are now bigger than they ever have been, and almost every MLB team has built a new stadium in the past 20 years, and MLB salaries are HUGE compared to NFL and NBA contracts.
Look at attendance rates at MLB parks, and at youth participation rates.
 
Brew_Poke said:
BeaverPoke said:
How is baseball a dying sport? The contracts are now bigger than they ever have been, and almost every MLB team has built a new stadium in the past 20 years, and MLB salaries are HUGE compared to NFL and NBA contracts.
Look at attendance rates at MLB parks, and at youth participation rates.

The season ends as the sixth-highest all-time and the league was quick to point out that all of the top 10 seasons in attendance have been over the last decade. The Los Angeles Dodgers led the majors with 3,743,527, the first time they led the league since 2009. At the other end of the spectrum, despite being consistently competitive on the field, the Tampa Bay Rays ended the season with a total of just 1,510,300 or an average of 18,646 per game. They were the only club to see average attendance below 19,000 per game.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/2013/10/03/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-mlbs-2013-attendance/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


As for youth baseball participation, yes it has been declining, but so has every other sport including the more popular basketball and football. It's an overall trend not just one sport specific.
 
HR_Poke said:
As for youth baseball participation, yes it has been declining, but so has every other sport including the more popular basketball and football. It's an overall trend not just one sport specific.

I am sure everyone here waited patiently for my dime on this. :roll:

My theory? Soccer. Much easier to teach / coach / learn / participate / etc., than baseball. With baseball you actually have to have hand-eye coordination & skills. Soccer - hell just run around and flop when somebody nudges you. Parents everywhere - they realize it is so easy to just drop the kids off at the big field and let them run, rather than worry about them getting beaned, etc.

America has become pussified. Real pussified. :tickedoff:
 
McPeachy said:
HR_Poke said:
As for youth baseball participation, yes it has been declining, but so has every other sport including the more popular basketball and football. It's an overall trend not just one sport specific.

I am sure everyone here waited patiently for my dime on this. :roll:

My theory? Soccer. Much easier to teach / coach / learn / participate / etc., than baseball. With baseball you actually have to have hand-eye coordination & skills. Soccer - hell just run around and flop when somebody nudges you. Parents everywhere - they realize it is so easy to just drop the kids off at the big field and let them run, rather than worry about them getting beaned, etc.

America has become pussified. Real pussified. :tickedoff:
LOL while I agree with you about the pussified comments even soccer has declined. It's an overall trend of kids dropping out of group sports and sitting on their ass at home playing video games.
 
McPeachy said:
HR_Poke said:
As for youth baseball participation, yes it has been declining, but so has every other sport including the more popular basketball and football. It's an overall trend not just one sport specific.

I am sure everyone here waited patiently for my dime on this. :roll:

My theory? Soccer. Much easier to teach / coach / learn / participate / etc., than baseball. With baseball you actually have to have hand-eye coordination & skills. Soccer - hell just run around and flop when somebody nudges you. Parents everywhere - they realize it is so easy to just drop the kids off at the big field and let them run, rather than worry about them getting beaned, etc.

America has become pussified. Real pussified. :tickedoff:
Never cared for baseball, didn't mind playing in school yard situations, but otherwise, never liked. Did soccer, but the way we played was kind of physical, wasn't spectacular or anything because this was in elementary school, but colliding on the field, getting tripped over, knocked over, and kept going was part of how we played.

Hell, I did indoor soccer one year with a broken arm and our team came in second place. And cleats hurt when you get tripped up. Same with a soccer ball kicked at full strength that smacks you square in the face. That one still hurts thinking about it. But often enough, you couldn''t afford to sit out because you would just have enough kids to play, and if you were lucky, maybe one or two kids to switch out with.
 
McPeachy said:
HR_Poke said:
As for youth baseball participation, yes it has been declining, but so has every other sport including the more popular basketball and football. It's an overall trend not just one sport specific.

I am sure everyone here waited patiently for my dime on this. :roll:

My theory? Soccer. Much easier to teach / coach / learn / participate / etc., than baseball. With baseball you actually have to have hand-eye coordination & skills. Soccer - hell just run around and flop when somebody nudges you. Parents everywhere - they realize it is so easy to just drop the kids off at the big field and let them run, rather than worry about them getting beaned, etc.

America has become pussified. Real pussified. :tickedoff:

You are right, unfortunately. I love baseball, and I know some people on here don't, but you are right about it taking skill and being potentially dangerous.

And that is the way all sports are turning into. I remember in basketball practice one time my coach called a foul on me for a charge, and the kid that I ran over, his mom attended EVERY practice and then made a huge scene and made me apologize to her son.

A lot of older people say my generation is full of pussies and cry babies, and we are, but just remember who the parents of my generation are, and it's you guys.

Obviously, on this message board, I highly doubt there are ANY of those type of parents, but in general, we were taught to be pussies by our parents. And I am speaking for my whole generation here.

Parents, especially moms want to make sure their kid never gets hurt in anything, and when they do, they raise hell.
 
BeaverPoke said:
You are right, unfortunately. I love baseball, and I know some people on here don't, but you are right about it taking skill and being potentially dangerous.

And that is the way all sports are turning into. I remember in basketball practice one time my coach called a foul on me for a charge, and the kid that I ran over, his mom attended EVERY practice and then made a huge scene and made me apologize to her son.

A lot of older people say my generation is full of pussies and cry babies, and we are, but just remember who the parents of my generation are, and it's you guys.

Obviously, on this message board, I highly doubt there are ANY of those type of parents, but in general, we were taught to be pussies by our parents. And I am speaking for my whole generation here.

Parents, especially moms want to make sure their kid never gets hurt in anything, and when they do, they raise hell.

:cool:

As your newly appointed Wyonation father...I can assure you that things are going to get a lot tougher around here if you don't start keeping your fucking room clean. And also - start putting your dishes in the GD dishwasher, and take out the trash daily. And lastly, is it too much to ask that you do SOMETHING around here, without having to be asked?

My boot is in your ass if you can't get it going. And that is both a threat and a promise.
 
BackHarlowRoad said:
SnowyRange said:
Double stamped. Does the pool have water? Than they can swim. It boggles my mind the idea of spending MILLIONS on a water containing apparatus. Will they swim any faster if the locker rooms are updated or outdated? Nope. It's all the same.

Yeah, yeah.

Same thing with football and basketball.

Exactly what I thought, Snowy. Does the AA have a basketball court in it? Does the War have a field on it? They can play.


I would argue this point strictly on a revenue basis...what sports are going to generate the most money for you? Swimming probably isn't at the top. For that reason the venue is not about team performance but more about attracting the spectators. Did anyone see Nebraska's new facility for basketball last night WOW! 196 million dollars!
 
Frankly I am one who believes that if a college/university is going to offer an athletic scholarship to an individual that it should provide adequate facilities for that student athlete to compete in his or her sport. That being said, I do not buy off on the idea that facilities have to be the absolute state of the art to attract those student athletes. I expect everyone of us has at some time talked with a current or past student athlete who said they attended the college/university he or she attended because of the coach of the athletic program he or she was wanting to participate in, or because of the reputation for winning/competing of that particular program, or heavens forbid but because of the fact that he or she could continue to participate in his or her sport while getting an education in a field from a college/university recognized for quality graduates in that particular field. Ridiculous to me to have a student athlete on a scholarship who is expected to dive off of a platform to not have adequate facilities for that student athlete to practice; sort of akin to having a field goal kicker but no goal posts for him to practice kicking at.
 
I lean more towards promoting a new facility for the swimming team. While it is not a revenue generating sport, a new pool would do more than just benefit the UW swim team, it would also benefit Laramie and the state. A new, olympic-sized (if it's not 50-meters than don't bother) pool, with full diving amenities, would allow the Wyoming high school state meets to be held in Laramie. It would also allow for large club and high school meets (besides state) to be held. This would generate revenue for the city from teams, kids, parents, coming to Laramie and spending on hotels, food, etc. Furthermore, as mentioned it could greatly help recruiting for the swim team.

Will it make enough revenue that it will pay for itself? No, but this is one of those things that UW can do that will actually be just as beneficial for the general public as it will for itself and its athletes.
 
WestWYOPoke said:
I lean more towards promoting a new facility for the swimming team. While it is not a revenue generating sport, a new pool would do more than just benefit the UW swim team, it would also benefit Laramie and the state. A new, olympic-sized (if it's not 50-meters than don't bother) pool, with full diving amenities, would allow the Wyoming high school state meets to be held in Laramie. It would also allow for large club and high school meets (besides state) to be held. This would generate revenue for the city from teams, kids, parents, coming to Laramie and spending on hotels, food, etc. Furthermore, as mentioned it could greatly help recruiting for the swim team.

Will it make enough revenue that it will pay for itself? No, but this is one of those things that UW can do that will actually be just as beneficial for the general public as it will for itself and its athletes.

There are a lot of benefits to having a nice training facility for olympic sports, especially when you're at 7220 feet. With a nice pool we might be able to get an olympic training tag like we did for wrestling. I support the pool rebuild, I just don't think we have to pour ALL of our resources into it now.

Football and basketball recruiting budgets on the other hand: we need to pour all of our resources into them as soon as possible.
 

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