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6 Games---6 Losses----1 Offensive TD (ONE)!

East_Popcorn_State

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Colorada-------0
Texass----------0
TCwhU----------0
BYwhU----------0
UTAH-------------1.... (thank god for double reverse, throwback to the QB, Double Pass, gimmicks!)
Air Farce--------0


This is 24 quarters of football with the offense mustering a total of 1 touchdown via a trick play.

You call this improvement? And quit blaming it on playing a bunch of freshman. It is DC's decision to play his freshman over the Seniors.

BUT WHAT IS REALLY DISTURBING IS THAT JOE GLENN'S PERENNIAL POWERHOUSE DEFENSE IS GOING SOFT!!
I'M VERY WORRIED CHRISTENSON IS BRINGING THE MISSOURI ATTITUDE TO LARAMIE. MISSOURI HAS BEEN NOTORIOUSLY SOFT, AND IS WELL KNOWN TO ROLLOVER FOR THE LIKES OF OKLAHOMA, TEXAS, AND NEBRASKA. THEY ARE VERY MUCH INTO MORAL VICTORIES AT MIZZOU. :brick:
 
The best part of this humorous post is when you called Joe Glenn's defense a "perennial powerhouse". That one made me LOL.

Someone needs a refresher course on all of the beatdowns the Pokes D received while Glenn was the head coach at UW. You can start with just the Utah and BYU games and work your way from there.
 
NowherePoke said:
The best part of this humorous post is when you called Joe Glenn's defense a "perennial powerhouse". That one made me LOL.

Someone needs a refresher course on all of the beatdowns the Pokes D received while Glenn was the head coach at UW. You can start with just the Utah and BYU games and work your way from there.

Apparently this fool doesn't recall UW's total defense being ranked consistenly in the top 5 10 15 20 Nationally year after year. Thats sad. You don't remember the likes of Hoffschneider, D. Martin, Dobbs... but thats okay.. you're still young.
 
East_Popcorn_State said:
NowherePoke said:
You don't remember the likes of Hoffschneider, D. Martin, Dobbs... but thats okay.. you're still young.

LOL. How does this mean anything? English recruited Dobbs. Hoffschneider came to wrestle. Martin left early and lied to the media about being arrested at the Baltimore airport.
 
East_Popcorn_State said:
NowherePoke said:
The best part of this humorous post is when you called Joe Glenn's defense a "perennial powerhouse". That one made me LOL.

Someone needs a refresher course on all of the beatdowns the Pokes D received while Glenn was the head coach at UW. You can start with just the Utah and BYU games and work your way from there.

Apparently this fool doesn't recall UW's total defense being ranked consistenly in the top 5 10 15 20 Nationally year after year. Thats sad. You don't remember the likes of Hoffschneider, D. Martin, Dobbs... but thats okay.. you're still young.

Hilarious. Although I am impressed that a BYU fan remembers some of our players. At least you guys still care about us a little bit.

I would love to see a link to a statistical ranking that had the Pokes in the Top 5 in total defense.

We did have some strong statistical seasons (definitely Top 40, maybe even Top 30 once? You can do the research if you feel like it), but perennial powerhouse we were not.

The Pokes were 3-13 in MWC play over Glenn/Breske's last two seasons. There is absolutely nothing there to aspire to.

Christensen has been underwhelming so far, to say the least, but the tenure of Joe Glenn is not one that should bring fond memories to long time Wyoming fans.
 
It's funny that South Beernuts-less State only gets on the board to rag after a loss. He's mighty quiet when something good happens to the Pokes, like scoring 24 unanswered to beat the Aztecs.
 
We did have some strong statistical seasons (definitely Top 40, maybe even Top 30 once? You can do the research if you feel like it), but perennial powerhouse we were not.

I recall Wyoming's defense being ranked in the top 5 10 15 20 midway through every year for 3 or 4 straight years. Normally about 6 games into every year Wyoming defense was top 5 defense in the nation... Then as the season wore on, and the pathetic offense left the defense on the field way too long they wore down and their final rankings were nearly as impressive although still usually in the top 25. I recall having the #2 ranked defense in the nation for a few weeks. We had a helluva run defense for awhile.. It was too damn bad the offense couldn't keep from turning the ball over.
 
East_Popcorn_State said:
Colorada-------0
Texass----------0
TCwhU----------0
BYwhU----------0
UTAH-------------1.... (thank god for double reverse, throwback to the QB, Double Pass, gimmicks!)
Air Farce--------0


This is 24 quarters of football with the offense mustering a total of 1 touchdown via a trick play.

You call this improvement? And quit blaming it on playing a bunch of freshman. It is DC's decision to play his freshman over the Seniors.

BUT WHAT IS REALLY DISTURBING IS THAT JOE GLENN'S PERENNIAL POWERHOUSE DEFENSE IS GOING SOFT!!
I'M VERY WORRIED CHRISTENSON IS BRINGING THE MISSOURI ATTITUDE TO LARAMIE. MISSOURI HAS BEEN NOTORIOUSLY SOFT, AND IS WELL KNOWN TO ROLLOVER FOR THE LIKES OF OKLAHOMA, TEXAS, AND NEBRASKA. THEY ARE VERY MUCH INTO MORAL VICTORIES AT MIZZOU. :brick:


Honestly the only team that we should have put a bunch of points up on this year out of those games you listed was Colorado but we came out flat after getting up for Texas. Since Air Force has a top 15 defense and the other 4 are all top 25 teams and 2 of them have 2 of the top 3 defenses in the country I don't really think you have much to go on since most teams in the country probably wouldn't score a whole lot of points with a whole new Offensive scheme and a bunch of freshman playing.
 
East_Popcorn_State said:
the likes of Hoffschneider, D. Martin, Dobbs... but thats okay.. you're still young.

You are giving yourself away Billy...not smart.


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EPS, You really want to play the numbers game lets do it. I'll give you this, the blowouts and shutouts are not impressive, and do suck. But if you honestly think it was better or would be better under Glenn this year you need to stop being 1) retarded 2)douche bag 3) a negative nellie.
Here it goes:

2008
http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/mountainwest/wyoming/yearly_results.php?year=2005

2009
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/conferences/standings?confID=17&confId=17

Sorry these are from two different sources, but the first site seems to only update after the season. Accurate none the less.

In a nutshell, we've already scored more points this year than last year even if you take away the 2 defensive scores with one game left to play. And if we play a solid game defensively against the sheep, we'll have given up less than last year. Also, last year we were playing with more upper classmen at the skill positions (exception stutz) and still had an abysmal offense. Lord knows how bad it couldve been without D-Mo.

Another thing, just looking at the numbers only the defense started going soft waaaaay before this year. I don't know if it was a perssonel thing, a scheme thing, a coach thing, but it has not been the defense we've been accustomed to. (Also gave up 311 points in 2007). Obviously in the past few years those numbers get skewed some because we were turning the ball over a lot, and this year we haven't and are still giving up a lot of points.

Bottom line, the team is 5-6, and with a win goes to a bowl game. As mentioned many times we were picked to finish last in the conference. So what difference does it really make how bad the losses were? 6 wins is the only number that really matters.

PS- I don't know if you're a troll with nothing better to do, a pessimist, or just a nitwit, and I don't really care any which way. But, I do love how you only seem to really show up here after a loss and rant rave about how bad things are. Regardless, I hope being that much of drama queen isn't too exhausting for you. :cool:
 
East_Popcorn_State said:
We did have some strong statistical seasons (definitely Top 40, maybe even Top 30 once? You can do the research if you feel like it), but perennial powerhouse we were not.

I recall Wyoming's defense being ranked in the top 5 10 15 20 midway through every year for 3 or 4 straight years. Normally about 6 games into every year Wyoming defense was top 5 defense in the nation... Then as the season wore on, and the pathetic offense left the defense on the field way too long they wore down and their final rankings were nearly as impressive although still usually in the top 25. I recall having the #2 ranked defense in the nation for a few weeks. We had a helluva run defense for awhile.. It was too damn bad the offense couldn't keep from turning the ball over.

All those defenses had one thing in common: they said they wore out, but they all folded when they faced high-powered passing offenses like BYU and Utah. I don't think they held up well against a single high quality team... and don't bring up Gators, because Urban Meyer completely pulled the horses when it was 23-0 out of respect for Glenn.
 
Asmodeanreborn said:
East_Popcorn_State said:
We did have some strong statistical seasons (definitely Top 40, maybe even Top 30 once? You can do the research if you feel like it), but perennial powerhouse we were not.

I recall Wyoming's defense being ranked in the top 5 10 15 20 midway through every year for 3 or 4 straight years. Normally about 6 games into every year Wyoming defense was top 5 defense in the nation... Then as the season wore on, and the pathetic offense left the defense on the field way too long they wore down and their final rankings were nearly as impressive although still usually in the top 25. I recall having the #2 ranked defense in the nation for a few weeks. We had a helluva run defense for awhile.. It was too damn bad the offense couldn't keep from turning the ball over.

All those defenses had one thing in common: they said they wore out, but they all folded when they faced high-powered passing offenses like BYU and Utah. I don't think they held up well against a single high quality team... and don't bring up Gators, because Urban Meyer completely pulled the horses when it was 23-0 out of respect for Glenn.

That's not true... Wyoming beat Utah the year before the 50-0 debacle at Utah.
Wyoming also beat TCU at home, Ole Miss 2x, Completely dominated Virginia 20-3, Tennessee, UCLA. I honestly don't see Christensen's brand of football being able to beat any major teams.. Like I said, the offense will get better, but the defense will get worse and the team overall will be no better.
 
East_Popcorn_State said:
That's not true... Wyoming beat Utah the year before the 50-0 debacle at Utah.
Wyoming also beat TCU at home, Ole Miss 2x, Completely dominated Virginia 20-3, Tennessee, UCLA. I honestly don't see Christensen's brand of football being able to beat any major teams.. Like I said, the offense will get better, but the defense will get worse and the team overall will be no better.

Yes, we sure did those things. And we also got blown the F*** out. This is not the team it was back then. In some ways its been good, and others bad. No matter what, this is the team that's there now, and there really won't be anyway to tell how well DC will do until it comes to pass. And as I posted earlier, the defense started getting worse even before this season. If DC is here for 6 years, then you can really set it up side by side with Glenn's 6 years and really compare. But, DC's first season isn't even over yet, and he's on the verge of doing something Glenn didn't and that's take the team to a bowl game in his first year.
 
East_Popcorn_State said:
I recall Wyoming's defense being ranked in the top 5 10 15 20 midway through every year for 3 or 4 straight years. Normally about 6 games into every year Wyoming defense was top 5 defense in the nation... Then as the season wore on, and the pathetic offense left the defense on the field way too long they wore down and their final rankings were nearly as impressive although still usually in the top 25. I recall having the #2 ranked defense in the nation for a few weeks. We had a helluva run defense for awhile.. It was too damn bad the offense couldn't keep from turning the ball over.

LOL Who cares where we were ranked for half a season. It certainly wasn't top 5. You haven't produced one bit of statistical evidence to back a single one of your claims. I used to get angry with you, but now its really funny when you come on. It gives me a pretty good kick.
 
Bottom line is we have a chance to go to a bowl game in Dave Christensen's first season at Wyoming and we have at least 12 Freshmen who will go into next season with a great deal of game experience.
 
The defense was really good during the Glenn Years, it didnt show up in the rankings, as someone else pointed out, because of turning the ball over five times a game. I think the bottom line is, if Joe Glenn could have gotten the turnover problem fixed he would have been successful and still would be are coach.

Joe couldnt figure it out and DC has shown that he could fix the turnover margin.Is it because of DC's coaching or that he found a qb that can make an decision, it doesn't really matter . Is there really any improvement so far other then that? I don't see it yet, but hey i'll take any stride in the positive direction.

Hopefully Next year we can really start putting something together, i have some hope since we seem to be recruiting better, and all of our true frosh will be a year older
 
calpoke25 said:
East_Popcorn_State said:
I recall Wyoming's defense being ranked in the top 5 10 15 20 midway through every year for 3 or 4 straight years. Normally about 6 games into every year Wyoming defense was top 5 defense in the nation... Then as the season wore on, and the pathetic offense left the defense on the field way too long they wore down and their final rankings were nearly as impressive although still usually in the top 25. I recall having the #2 ranked defense in the nation for a few weeks. We had a helluva run defense for awhile.. It was too damn bad the offense couldn't keep from turning the ball over.

LOL Who cares where we were ranked for half a season. It certainly wasn't top 5. You haven't produced one bit of statistical evidence to back a single one of your claims. I used to get angry with you, but now its really funny when you come on. It gives me a pretty good kick.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2007&div=4&rpt=IA_teamtotdef&site=org

This pretty much gives all the end of year rankings for every year... IN 2007 the Defense finished a disappointing 22nd in Total Defense after being ranked in the top 10 all year and then wearing out late in the season thanks to the offense leaving them on the field too long. That was a common theme every year. It was truly amazing with the terrible offense we had that our defense could be ranked so high when our offense was constantly giving the opponent a short field or going three and out and not consuming any clock. Truly amazing. I personally recall making a bet w/ a boise fan regarding our 2nd ranked run defense against their potent offense... Boise won the game 33-17, but I won the bet.

Believe me, Wyomings Defense was ranked in the top ten for 3 or 4 years in a row (and as high as #2) during most of the season. The last couple of games the D finally gave in and wore down and thus them only finishing in the top 25 for the final ranking..
 
East_Popcorn_State said:
http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2007&div=4&rpt=IA_teamtotdef&site=org

This pretty much gives all the end of year rankings for every year... IN 2007 the Defense finished a disappointing 22nd in Total Defense after being ranked in the top 10 all year and then wearing out late in the season thanks to the offense leaving them on the field too long. That was a common theme every year. It was truly amazing with the terrible offense we had that our defense could be ranked so high when our offense was constantly giving the opponent a short field or going three and out and not consuming any clock. Truly amazing. I personally recall making a bet w/ a boise fan regarding our 2nd ranked run defense against their potent offense... Boise won the game 33-17, but I won the bet.

Believe me, Wyomings Defense was ranked in the top ten for 3 or 4 years in a row (and as high as #2) during most of the season. The last couple of games the D finally gave in and wore down and thus them only finishing in the top 25 for the final ranking..

Once again, you're lying. You have no proof of Wyomings defense ever being in the top 5 for most of the season. If they were, two bad games at the end of the season wouldnt drop them all the way to 22 And the bottom line is who really cares. The defense didnt even have the chance to give up very many yards, however they gave up their fair share of points. Where did we rank with scoring D I wonder? You can't blame that all on the offense.

Bottom-line is you're pretty funny and I enjoy reading your incoherent tirades.
 
East_Popcorn_State said:
UTAH-------------1.... (thank god for double reverse, throwback to the QB, Double Pass, gimmicks!)
:brick:

Change that "1" to around "4" and the Pokes will beat the Rams. Otherwise forget it. The Poke's Jr. High offense won't cut it against the althletic CSU boys (although the Ram coaching staff won't let them prove that they are pretty good)
 

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