41 of 102 underclassmen went undrafted

[BeaverPoke]

Why do kids continue to leave early?
Are they getting bad advice?
Or do they think they will just prove the evaluations wrong?

I bet where ever Cade goes, he stays all 4 seasons.

 

[spindoctor02]

Apparently the other 5 threads on Brett not making a wise choice and entering the draft early weren't enough. Thanks for the 6th one!

 

[BeaverPoke]

Apparently the other 5 threads on Brett not making a wise choice and entering the draft early weren't enough. Thanks for the 6th one!

I didn't realize the other 5 were about all underclassmen declaring early! Thanks for the clarification!

 

[Cuttslam]

Wait, Brett didn't get drafted?

 

[WYCowboy]

Who's handing out all the sarcastic pills around here?

 

[BJC]

Why all the hate on beaves?

 

[Hayduke]

Legitimate thread. There seems to be a lot of inflated egos with the underclassmen believing there's a pot o' gold at the end of that rainbow, and a shortcut to it is the way to go.

Smith and Bibbs learned a lesson here. Although, I still believe that Smith has a better shot of sticking around the NFL than Bibbs.

 

[ragtimejoe1]

Probably time for minor leagues. I wonder how many of these guys that don't really have an ambition for the college side of things and can't wait to stop going to class. College isn't for everyone. It really is too bad that college is the only avenue to the pros.

 

[BackHarlowRoad]

Don't hate on Beavs. It's not a thread about Brett not making a wise choice. It's a thread taking Brett's situation and using it to bring a broader, relevant question to the table. He doesn't even mention Brett.

We got your back, BP.

 

[OrediggerPoke]

I believe that this is a relevant and topic worth discussing as well.

My question is what kind of a grade is the NFL draft advisory committee giving these kids!? Brett Smith is not stupid so I still believe that he had to receive a decent draft grade. Perhaps the NFL should release the draft grades after the draft?

I agree, an NFL minor league is the best way to save college football.

 

[Wyo2dal]

I honestly think a lot of kids that declare early do it because they aren't interested in school but they have no other options in life. I mean it would be nice to convince everyone that the degree is worth it but let's be honest how many people do you know with degrees that are unemployed?

My roommate just got his MBA and he is unemployed. Sure he will eventually get a job but the fact of the matter is some of these kids don't want to be in school and they are willing to take the chance to get out ASAP.

I'm sure some have legit reasons AA for example did it to try and support his family. I'm pretty sure he would have been better off staying his entire career but his heart was in the right place. He might not be blowing it up in the NFL but he is on a team getting a paycheck and I'm sure his family appreciates that sacrifice he made.

If it were me and I had to decide to leave early or stay there are so many things I would have looked at. Now this is the first time this thread includes Brett but I have to use him as an example.

Notable things that would make me stay and not leave early,

How many underclassmen of my position are in the Draft?
How did they perform at their respective schools?
How are they performing media wise?

The first thing I thought when I assumed Brett could declare early was wait until the very last day so if the QB position is deep you can wait a year and be in a better spot. I dunno whoever gave him any draft advice should quit giving kids advice.

Also if you must declare early get an agent that will backup what you want. Leinart in my opinion while he paid a lot up front for his agent he made a logical choice. Leinart had loss-of-value insurance for his senior year that would have paid out if he slipped from the projected top pick to No. 15.

TLDR

If an agent won't offer you a loss of value insurance than you shouldn't be entering the draft or you need a new agent.

 

[Asmodeanreborn]

Brett still got his degree, though, right? I think it's a pretty big difference between leaving early with a degree and leaving early without one.

 

[fromolwyoming]

Brett still got his degree, though, right? I think it's a pretty big difference between leaving early with a degree and leaving early without one.

I think he still had a semester left before his degree. Still, he does plan on getting it one day.

 

[Asmodeanreborn]

Brett still got his degree, though, right? I think it's a pretty big difference between leaving early with a degree and leaving early without one.

I think he still had a semester left before his degree. Still, he does plan on getting it one day.

Huh, I thought it said somewhere that he graduated. Guess I must have misunderstood.

 

[PokeOLoco]

I think he's fairly close, but he did not leave with his degree.

 

[WyoBrandX]

Too some extent, education is backwards. It is hard work and costs alot of money after you are out of high school. Getting a degree doesn't guarantee a high paying job - or even a job for that matter.

Hell, many people eventually figure out what they do well (not related to their degree), and become very successful at it. I can certainly see why some of these guys want to go work hard and try to make it.

Sports are certainly a hybrid of that. Its like a slot machine: "free education, or I continue to work hard and try to impress someone to pay me millions a year."

Hell, even getting very low spot in the NFL generally pays $800k a year. That can easily pay for your education after a year or two in the NFL and get you started in life.

 

[BeaverPoke]

I can definitely understand why you would want to go pro after 3 seasons.
Like mentioned above, Alvester left to help his family. The argument that he would have had better draft stock can be made, but the argument can me made that he had done everything possible for his size and speed and skills in Dave Christensen's offense.
Either way, he is a millionaire now because practice squad pays something like 480K a year, and he has been there 3 seasons now.

If I hated school, was going to be a 6th round pick, and didn't see myself becoming a 3rd round or higher draft pick, and didn't really care all that much about becoming a legend in the school record books, but just wanted some financial security, why risk an injury? Why risk waiting around...You never know what could happen that would screw you over.
You don't know when a simple fight at the Buck turns into a felony arrest. You don't know when your laziness in the classroom turns into being suspended and not playing at all.

Go pro, get the money, I get it.

But if you want to be a star, if you want to become a legend in the school record books on your way to becoming an NFL legend, then I think you should stay. Andrew Luck will always be remembered at Stanford, but then again he was a sure first round pick from the time he turned 16.

If I was Brett, I would have stayed. If I was Alvester, I would have left when he did.

I guess it just comes down to your priorities and dreams, and unfortunately, some bad advice.

What kind of grade was Brett given? Compare that to Bortles or Manziel?

How many of these underclassmen were told they would be 4th round picks?

 

[Asmodeanreborn]

Either way, he is a millionaire now because practice squad pays something like 480K a year, and he has been there 3 seasons now.

Ignoring how much money you pay to your agent, the players' union, taxes, and so on. $480k? Where on earth did you get that number. Practice squad typically doesn't pay more than the minimum, which since 2013 sits at $102k/season, or $6,000/week for 17 weeks.

 

[BeaverPoke]

Either way, he is a millionaire now because practice squad pays something like 480K a year, and he has been there 3 seasons now.

Ignoring how much money you pay to your agent, the players' union, taxes, and so on. $480k? Where on earth did you get that number. Practice squad typically doesn't pay more than the minimum, which since 2013 sits at $102k/season, or $6,000/week for 17 weeks.

I thought that was how much they made. Apparently not though.

 

[Asmodeanreborn]

Either way, he is a millionaire now because practice squad pays something like 480K a year, and he has been there 3 seasons now.

Ignoring how much money you pay to your agent, the players' union, taxes, and so on. $480k? Where on earth did you get that number. Practice squad typically doesn't pay more than the minimum, which since 2013 sits at $102k/season, or $6,000/week for 17 weeks.

I thought that was how much they made. Apparently not though.

Well, it's not like that's terrible pay out of college either way (especially considering there's 35 more weeks in the year). I was just curious where you saw that number?