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1999 Wyoming Triple Shoot

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Cornpoke

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For you X's and O's guys I wanted to start a thread about one of my favorite offenses of all time. Not just because Wyoming ran it but because it contains elements of everything I want in an offense: Run-n-shoot, belly traps, veer, options, a single back look with multiple receivers to spread the field but keeping tight splits on the line to really ground and pound. It's the kind of offense I try to replicate in EA NCAA if they would ever produce a worthy game.

I am well aware of the dislike for Dana Dimel around here but I also gotta give the man some credit for developing such a unique and enjoyable offense to watch. If Wyoming could have had some more help on the line they could have played with anyone.

I was able to get my hands on Dana Dimel's Wyoming Triple Shoot offense playbook and I'd like to share it with any of you guys who also enjoy studying the X's and O's.
http://www.filedropper.com/1999-wyoming-triple-shoot-offense

I'm trying to find more video of the 1999 season so if anyone has some, please please post it! Here is the 1999 game vs Tennessee and early on it was giving the Vols trouble. We just didn't have the horses on the defense and our O-line was so inexperienced. Jay Stoner gave it his all.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STT4sTQtHTA[/youtube]
 
Clint Stoner......Jay

And that was the year BYU went down when they were highly ranked!
 
FAAUCK!!!!

i thought i was done seeing tod christensen pouring his haterade on the pokes
 
The triple shoot wasn't Dimels, it was OC Manny Matsakis that brought it here from Emporia State College. I was at that byu game and the Poke's ran it to perfection that day. I remember Bill Walsh said it was one of the most innovative offense's he had ever seen.
 
zappinpoke said:
The triple shoot wasn't Dimels, it was OC Manny Matsakis that brought it here from Emporia State College. I was at that byu game and the Poke's ran it to perfection that day. I remember Bill Walsh said it was one of the most innovating offense's he had ever seen.
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Your exactly right and I should have mention Matsakis in my original post as he was the innovator of this offense. He still puts on Triple Shoot clinics to this day for high school coach's. He used to have a website http://www.tripleshootfootball.com but it's not longer online but his blog still remains.

That BYU game was the defining moment for Matsakis and showed just how deadly the offense can be when executed correctly. Lavell Edwards even had to admit how well Wyoming looked that day (we went from last to first in offense in the MWC) To bad Matsakis only stayed for one year... He has never been able to stay in one place long. I still say had Dimel, Matsakis, and Koenning stayed together Cowboy football would be different today... possibly the Boise St of college football.

Here is a recent interview with Coach Matsakis: http://www.compusportsradio.com/shows/coachscornervol59.asp
 
fromolwyoming said:
Wyokie said:
fromolwyoming said:
Except Dimel was a lousy recruiter and rode Tiller's recruits until Houston hired him.
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AND even shitter morals!
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You still haven't answered why Wyoming had the one year bowl ban.
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Damned I forgot. I'll do it tomorrow afternoon. I have to re-read A Million Cheers (book for the football Centennial in 1993) again for the info. I don't want to accidently give bad info.
 
New video and webinar Manny Matsakis is doing on the Triple Shoot. At 2:30 he mentions his time at Wyoming beating Utah, BYU, and Air Force in that same season. Going from last to first in MWC offense is impressive. Wish our current coaching staff could replicate that kind of turnaround.

https://mannymatsakis.com/triple-shoot-offense/
 
Pretty cool history.

https://smartfootball.blogspot.com/2009/05/triple-shoot-part-2-run-game-and-play.html
Here is a breakdown. My favorite part about the offense is the receivers that are constantly in motion across the formation. Receivers must get good conditioning in such an offense haha.

It is a gimmicky offense but I think it is a good idea at a school like a Wyoming or other school that struggles to recruit the talent level and size of their opponent. It poses matchup and assignment problems for opposing teams that don't see a strange offense like that on a weekly basis. That said...with such a spread out offense comes a natural regression in the defense as you lose the physicality in practice. I'm all for it whenever the Bohl system makes its way out of Wyoming.
 
OrediggerPoke said:
Pretty cool history.

https://smartfootball.blogspot.com/2009/05/triple-shoot-part-2-run-game-and-play.html
Here is a breakdown. My favorite part about the offense is the receivers that are constantly in motion across the formation. Receivers must get good conditioning in such an offense haha.

It is a gimmicky offense but I think it is a good idea at a school like a Wyoming or other school that struggles to recruit the talent level and size of their opponent. It poses matchup and assignment problems for opposing teams that don't see a strange offense like that on a weekly basis. That said...with such a spread out offense comes a natural regression in the defense as you lose the physicality in practice. I'm all for it whenever the Bohl system makes its way out of Wyoming.
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I like how this plays off the triple option. It seems like it would be able to have some spread options as well.
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
OrediggerPoke said:
Pretty cool history.

https://smartfootball.blogspot.com/2009/05/triple-shoot-part-2-run-game-and-play.html
Here is a breakdown. My favorite part about the offense is the receivers that are constantly in motion across the formation. Receivers must get good conditioning in such an offense haha.

It is a gimmicky offense but I think it is a good idea at a school like a Wyoming or other school that struggles to recruit the talent level and size of their opponent. It poses matchup and assignment problems for opposing teams that don't see a strange offense like that on a weekly basis. That said...with such a spread out offense comes a natural regression in the defense as you lose the physicality in practice. I'm all for it whenever the Bohl system makes its way out of Wyoming.
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I like how this plays off the triple option. It seems like it would be able to have some spread options as well.
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I agree and I believe the offense does have some of the spread elements we see today.

As far as the fly sweep which is a big part of the run game in the triple shoot, I would add the Bob Stitt wrinkle and run some of it out of the shotgun with the fly sweep becoming a flip forward rather than a handoff (this changes the play to a pass play). Thus if the ball is dropped on the fly sweep it becomes an incomplete pass and not a fumble.
 
OrediggerPoke said:
ragtimejoe1 said:
OrediggerPoke said:
Pretty cool history.

https://smartfootball.blogspot.com/2009/05/triple-shoot-part-2-run-game-and-play.html
Here is a breakdown. My favorite part about the offense is the receivers that are constantly in motion across the formation. Receivers must get good conditioning in such an offense haha.

It is a gimmicky offense but I think it is a good idea at a school like a Wyoming or other school that struggles to recruit the talent level and size of their opponent. It poses matchup and assignment problems for opposing teams that don't see a strange offense like that on a weekly basis. That said...with such a spread out offense comes a natural regression in the defense as you lose the physicality in practice. I'm all for it whenever the Bohl system makes its way out of Wyoming.
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I like how this plays off the triple option. It seems like it would be able to have some spread options as well.
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I agree and I believe the offense does have some of the spread elements we see today.

As far as the fly sweep which is a big part of the run game in the triple shoot, I would add the Bob Stitt wrinkle and run some of it out of the shotgun with the fly sweep becoming a flip forward rather than a handoff (this changes the play to a pass play). Thus if the ball is dropped on the fly sweep it becomes an incomplete pass and not a fumble.
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That's one of the most effective parts of the offense itself is making the defense key on the jet sweep concepts. It's effective in both the shotgun and under center, as the ball is a little more disguised in the jet sweep when running from under center. Pair it with some run and shoot or even double wing concepts and you have yourself a winner.

Disclaimer: I love talking X & O's but any offense requires the talent and coaching to run it. The old saying give me the jimmies & joe's over the X & O's. There is no offensive play in football that is not designed to score if executed properly.
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
laxwyo said:
Maybe I’ll ask my uncle if he’ll bring the Snake T to Wyoming.
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? In jest or a variation of the wing t?
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He just won like his 14th or 17th state title in Idaho running it. 2nd year with new school that was dog crap for a long time.

The newspaper said it was some variation of wing t and triple option or something that he developed. His son hasn’t had as much success running it as his ole man.
 
laxwyo said:
ragtimejoe1 said:
laxwyo said:
Maybe I’ll ask my uncle if he’ll bring the Snake T to Wyoming.
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? In jest or a variation of the wing t?
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He just won like his 14th or 17th state title in Idaho running it. 2nd year with new school that was dog crap for a long time.

The newspaper said it was some variation of wing t and triple option or something that he developed. His son hasn’t had as much success running it as his ole man.
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That's cool! You'll have to ask him for a base formation/play that illustrates it. Sounds awesome!
 
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