Another lawsuit

ragtimejoe1 said:

This isn't snarky; honest question. Do you know GCU side of the story? I honestly don't. Did they have some scheduling issue or was it something that was done to help them out?

If so, the MWC has a precedence here...wsu and osu. The pac defects need to stop bitching. Honor their contractual obligations and pay up.

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GCU got basically nothing in conference revenue from the WAC. The contract they had with the WAC was expired. They were going to join the WCC in July 2025 but then Gonzaga left the WCC. The WCC is suing them for not paying the entire entry fee and the exit fee. I don’t know what the status is of that lawsuit. GCU would have been an independent effective July 1, 2025 since they had accepted joining the MWC in November 2024. GCU did make an initial entry payment to the WCC before being sued.

GCU was accepted as a member as well as UTEP and NIU while the traitors were still members. The MWC had made an offer to Texas State as well while the traitors were still members. So the traitors had full participation up to the end of June 2025 when they voluntarily submitted resignations they knew terminated their voting rights.

Here is where it gets interesting. Texas State had not received an official invitation from the pee12 at that time and neither conference had a media deal effective July 2026. Texas State opted to stay in the Sun Belt where at tops their conference income was about $2.4 million. I have heard speculation that Texas State received suggestions they wait for a better deal. Could that have been influenced by the traitors leaving when they were still MWC members? Because at that point the traitors were privy to the MWC terms of offer to Texas State. Did that information get to the pee12 where they were able to tell Texas State they would get a better deal?

The MWC could do very little while the traitors under the bylaws had a voice in every last move the MWC wanted to do (even while they were already suing the MWC). The MWC didn’t want to include the traitors in much of anything exactly because of potential sabotage by the pee12 and the lawsuit issues.

If the MWC is sticking the fork in the traitors according to the terms of the bylaws then I am glad and hope the fork is twisted while being pushed deeper.

This is 100% about the pee12 and the traitors avoiding paying as much as possible. They got themselves into this thinking they were the newest version of sliced bread with so much money flowing in every G6 program would be salivating to join.

The traitors will get the standard conference pay for 2025-26. But, future credits have already been forfeited with the resignations.

TheRealUW said:

The MWC accelerating the addition of GCU is going to come back to haunt them.

While I think the departing schools are overreacting a bit, they are right that they should have a say on if GCU can join the conference this year while they are still members of the conference.

I'm not clear to me what the MWC gains from adding GCU a year early, other than it being a bit of a parting shot at the schools that are leaving. It's a low blow move from the MWC. I don't like it and don't support the addition of GCU this year.

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We helped out a new. Business partner who needed a hand. We are in business with GCU, the PACstabbers can get fucked.

TheRealUW said:

But the MWC had GCU lined up to be added beginning in the fall of 2026. Why did they need to all of a sudden accelerate their addition up to fall of 2025?

I am assuming that the conference revenue will now be distributed amongst another school for this coming season. That has to be beyond just a minor financial set back for the departing schools and why I called it a low blow.

If GCU has agreed to forego conference revenue this season, then I take back everything I said. But I haven’t heard anything to suggest that is case.

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Because otherwise GCU, our partner, was looking at a year of independence, which could kill their program. They're a partner.

PorkerPoke said:

Here is where it gets interesting. Texas State had not received an official invitation from the pee12 at that time and neither conference had a media deal effective July 2026. Texas State opted to stay in the Sun Belt where at tops their conference income was about $2.4 million. I have heard speculation that Texas State received suggestions they wait for a better deal. Could that have been influenced by the traitors leaving when they were still MWC members? Because at that point the traitors were privy to the MWC terms of offer to Texas State. Did that information get to the pee12 where they were able to tell Texas State they would get a better deal?

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I have no doubt this Tom Foolery happened by the conniving corrupt whiny babies.

Regarding the amendment to the lawsuit this is the traitors news release by their lawyers regarding the amendment to the original exit fees lawsuit (the bold part is mine):

“For the past several months, Colorado State University, Boise State University, and Utah State University worked in good faith to try to resolve this matter. Unfortunately during that same period, actions taken by the Mountain West and Commissioner Nevarez have raised serious concerns regarding their fairness and transparency.

As set forth in the Second Amended Complaint that was filed today, the Mountain West and Commissioner Nevarez repeatedly misrepresented their intentions regarding the admission of Grand Canyon University for the 2025/26 season and purposefully delayed any formal vote on the issue until after the departing schools delivered their Notices of Resignation from the Conference.

Additionally, the Mountain West is currently withholding millions due to the departing schools from the NCAA, including NCAA grant-in-aid and other monies specifically designed to promote academic programs and student-athlete well-being. The Conference is also seeking to double the departing schools’ membership fees for 2025/26 to fund ongoing litigation, including its defense of this lawsuit brought by the departing members, and has not reimbursed the departing members for substantial post-season football expenses. Tens of millions of dollars in distributions due to the departing members remain unpaid, as well.

These developments have had a serious financial impact on the departing institutions and raise important questions about governance and accountability within the Conference. We believe the discovery process will further illuminate the extent of the Mountain West and Commissioner Nevarez’s wrongful actions. We remain committed to protecting our rights and, most importantly, the interests of our student-athletes.”

My assessment:

What is important to understand is that as far back as November 1, 2024 it was well known that GCU was going to be playing no later than July 1, 2026 AND that it might be possible to join as early as qtr 2 of 2025. ESPN and GCU published this fact clearly on November 1, 2024 about 6 weeks before the original traitors exit fee lawsuit.

Think about it - the traitors announced in September 2024 they were leaving the MWC but didn’t officially resign until the end of May 2025 meaning they retained full voting rights for all MWC matters and they did approve the addition of GCU in November 2024 and had the knowledge that GCU could join sooner than July 2026.

What the traitors really got pissed about was the MWC has started withholding exit fees as outlined in bylaw 1.04(b). Ironically the traitors pick and choose what bylaw to honor based on money they are desperate for. The move to the pee12 is costly for them and their original lawsuit was filed in December 2024 which was 5 months before they resigned. Yet for 9 months from September 2024 until May 2025 they had a voting ability to harm the MWC which meant the MWC struggled to perform official business for future years until the official resignations.

The storyline underneath all the legal rhetoric is supposedly the 3 traitors “heard” from GCU coaches in May of 2025 that GCU was planning schedules to play in the mwc.

The traitors claim on May 26, 2025 they sent a letter to the MWC regarding this and the MWC replied that it was inaccurate on May 27, 2025 stating that GCU had not been informed that they would be admitted as a member in 2025/26.

The lawsuit is specifically targeted at Gloria for fraud meaning they would have to prove that she had already signed GCU up prior to some magic date they had been told hadn’t occurred and lied about it while GCU sports programs openly shared the knowledge they were joining in 2025 with the traitors. The MWC bylaws say the board has to admit the new members which means if the resignations had already occurred they wouldn’t have been allowed to participate. GCU had to begin the process of determining scheduling for 2025 as an independent or as a MWC member if admitted and that was established with the announcement of November 1, 2024.

The action by the traitors is meant to exacerbate the level of harm they are suffering from the actions of the MWC in their efforts to join the pee12. It is purely designed to help reduce the exit penalties. It’s a crap case.

PorkerPoke said:

Regarding the amendment to the lawsuit this is the traitors news release by their lawyers regarding the amendment to the original exit fees lawsuit (the bold part is mine):

“For the past several months, Colorado State University, Boise State University, and Utah State University worked in good faith to try to resolve this matter. Unfortunately during that same period, actions taken by the Mountain West and Commissioner Nevarez have raised serious concerns regarding their fairness and transparency.

As set forth in the Second Amended Complaint that was filed today, the Mountain West and Commissioner Nevarez repeatedly misrepresented their intentions regarding the admission of Grand Canyon University for the 2025/26 season and purposefully delayed any formal vote on the issue until after the departing schools delivered their Notices of Resignation from the Conference.

Additionally, the Mountain West is currently withholding millions due to the departing schools from the NCAA, including NCAA grant-in-aid and other monies specifically designed to promote academic programs and student-athlete well-being. The Conference is also seeking to double the departing schools’ membership fees for 2025/26 to fund ongoing litigation, including its defense of this lawsuit brought by the departing members, and has not reimbursed the departing members for substantial post-season football expenses. Tens of millions of dollars in distributions due to the departing members remain unpaid, as well.

These developments have had a serious financial impact on the departing institutions and raise important questions about governance and accountability within the Conference. We believe the discovery process will further illuminate the extent of the Mountain West and Commissioner Nevarez’s wrongful actions. We remain committed to protecting our rights and, most importantly, the interests of our student-athletes.”

My assessment:

What is important to understand is that as far back as November 1, 2024 it was well known that GCU was going to be playing no later than July 1, 2026 AND that it might be possible to join as early as qtr 2 of 2025. ESPN and GCU published this fact clearly on November 1, 2024 about 6 weeks before the original traitors exit fee lawsuit.

Think about it - the traitors announced in September 2024 they were leaving the MWC but didn’t officially resign until the end of May 2025 meaning they retained full voting rights for all MWC matters and they did approve the addition of GCU in November 2024 and had the knowledge that GCU could join sooner than July 2026.

What the traitors really got pissed about was the MWC has started withholding exit fees as outlined in bylaw 1.04(b). Ironically the traitors pick and choose what bylaw to honor based on money they are desperate for. The move to the pee12 is costly for them and their original lawsuit was filed in December 2024 which was 5 months before they resigned. Yet for 9 months from September 2024 until May 2025 they had a voting ability to harm the MWC which meant the MWC struggled to perform official business for future years until the official resignations.

The storyline underneath all the legal rhetoric is supposedly the 3 traitors “heard” from GCU coaches in May of 2025 that GCU was planning schedules to play in the mwc.

The traitors claim on May 26, 2025 they sent a letter to the MWC regarding this and the MWC replied that it was inaccurate on May 27, 2025 stating that GCU had not been informed that they would be admitted as a member in 2025/26.

The lawsuit is specifically targeted at Gloria for fraud meaning they would have to prove that she had already signed GCU up prior to some magic date they had been told hadn’t occurred and lied about it while GCU sports programs openly shared the knowledge they were joining in 2025 with the traitors. The MWC bylaws say the board has to admit the new members which means if the resignations had already occurred they wouldn’t have been allowed to participate. GCU had to begin the process of determining scheduling for 2025 as an independent or as a MWC member if admitted and that was established with the announcement of November 1, 2024.

The action by the traitors is meant to exacerbate the level of harm they are suffering from the actions of the MWC in their efforts to join the pee12. It is purely designed to help reduce the exit penalties. It’s a crap case.

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And we’re supposed to believe the traitors weren’t communicating amongst the group and scheming their intentions of harm to the MW previous to their exit.

Itsux2beaewe said:

And we’re supposed to believe the traitors weren’t communicating amongst the group and scheming their intentions of harm to the MW previous to their exit.

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Over the winter I watched an interview with Gloria and she openly stated the MWC was hampered by the fact that the traitors had full voting rights which meant any official action regarding the future could not be a discussion which would empower the traitors to be disruptive to the future of the conference. The traitors didn’t block the addition of UTEP, NIU and GCU, but they weren’t going to support the spending of any funds that would cost them for the future benefit of the MWC. That is the harm part to the MWC where the MWC had to freeze action on their future financial activities.

Since it was openly stated GCU could join as early as 2nd quarter of 2025 when first announced in 2024 as a future member, my thoughts are the May 26, 2025 letter was purely a setup move to try and fabricate the fraud accusation if the traitors didn’t get the exit fee relief they demanded from mediation. I don’t have access to the 2024 membership contract with GCU, but I have to figure it contains language that says they could join in 2025 if certain conditions were met or it would not have been publicly stated. If those conditions were not met as of May 27, 2025 with the response from the MWC to the traitors and no offer was officially extended in writing to join sooner then there is no fraud for stating that no formal admission proceedings were in process. Once the traitors officially resigned, the MWC became free contractually to conduct business without input from the traitors. How about the traitors fraudulent refusal to pay the exit fees and the frivolous lawsuit?

The announcement the conference would pay the bills for the 2025 GCU schedule modification counters the argument that it would cost the traitors. Except - the traitors are legally (according to the MWC bylaws they are currently bound to) obligated to pay their exit fees from their distributions so therefore they are not getting the funds they once enjoyed and the MWC is using those funds to conduct current business.

This lawsuit is all a setup. Don’t forget the pee12 GOR signed June 9, 2025 (before GCU was admitted for 2025/26) indicated that some of the exit fees would be covered by the pee12 but that part was redacted which would indicate the amount. Another tidbit that proves perceived advantageous maneuvering is that after the MWC GOR was set through 2032 the pee12 set theirs at 2031 meaning they will pursue a new media contract one year before the MWC if those dates actually occur.

Simply figure both sides know where they are at financially now and the MWC is going to as vigorously defend their position just as the pee12 group is adamantly trying to cut costs. If the traitors don’t get some substantial concessions the move will be costly. All this because the P2/traitors didn’t want to merge.

Like the pundits say about the proposed 40 team super league - there will be the winners and a new group of losers who currently enjoy being considered winners in the current format. My hope is the traitors struggle financially and it impacts their recruiting future.