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UNLV and Utah St next PAC targets
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LanderPoke
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lol Utah state? Is this April Fool’s
Have actually heard UNM ... but you are right...you don't hear the others.
PokeNer
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Sounds like MW is desperately trying to hang onto the remaining MW members. If they succeed and the PAC fails to bring over the AAC schools, it could spell trouble for the PAC. Hopefully, they fall flat on their face, we take their exit fees and collusion money, and they come crawling back.
LanderPoke
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That would require schools sticking together for a common good, which has happened approximately zero times in the conference realignment era.
PokeNer
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If the common good is more money (same media revenue and no exit fees), then they stick together. The PAC apparently has no firm idea on what kind of media deal they will get.
I'm not saying it'll happen, but why leave for similar media revenues and pay a huge exit fee? Just for the PAC-12 name?
McPeachy
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Wishful thinking. The 2 backstabbers (OSU / WSU) will find 2 teams somewhere. The other 4, fuck 'em - nothing but greed, and very short sighted.
If the only way the MWC can keep UNLV and Air Force is to give them a bigger piece of the financial pie, would you be in favor of that? Interested in everyone's thoughts. It sounds like the MWC might be heading down that road.
The MWC already did a similar thing with Boise State and look how that turned out. It might buy the MWC some time, but it's not a great long-term approach.
The MWC already did a similar thing with Boise State and look how that turned out. It might buy the MWC some time, but it's not a great long-term approach.
PokeNer
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What if the MW members commit to that, which causes the PAC plan to blow up all together and we're back to square one with them? Would there still be room to negotiate a reverse merger with the PAC and dissolve the MW, which is what should have occurred anyways?
Honestly, I don't know. Would giving those schools a bigger piece of the pie be worse than rebuilding the MW with the leftovers?
Honestly, I don't know. Would giving those schools a bigger piece of the pie be worse than rebuilding the MW with the leftovers?
The problem, as I see it, is that conference realignment is going to continue for some time. If UNLV and Air Force are attractive enough to earn an invite to the PAC, they are likely to gain other offers from other conferences down the road. Eventually, one of those offers will be good enough and they will leave...see Boise State.
In the short-term, it's probably preferable to the MWC being gutted and Wyoming trying to find a landing spot. My concern would be Wyoming getting complacent again thinking that the MWC has been saved and everything is all right with the world again only to have UNLV and Air Force jump ship down the road. Who knows what our options would be at that point? It might be better or worse than what our options would be right now - I don't think anybody really knows.
PokeNer
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I truly believe this is all a stop-gap until the P4 splits. Once that split occurs, revenue for the G6 is going to decrease substantially, there will be some members that are kicked out of the big-boys club, and we'll back to the drawing board. No member that is currently in the AAC, MW, PAC, Sun Belt, etc is getting that invite to the P4 so all this is for naught anyways. This is all just a bunch of jockeying that will likely mean nothing in 5 years. Maybe that 5 years is worth selling your soul for the extra revenue in the interim, but long-term we'll all be back on fairly level playing fields (if we survive).
If that is where you see things heading (and you very well may be correct), then it probably does make sense to do whatever it takes to keep the MWC together for the next few years and just hang on for dear life until that split occurs.
I also believe a split is coming. I just wish it would happen a little faster than it probably will. The writing was on the wall as soon as NIL became a thing. I've advocated hard for UW to ignore the NIL route - it's a losing battle that is just wasting resources. Instead, I would use those resources to try and project and position UW into the best possible spot for College Football 2.0 (ie. post-split). But that takes some foresight that I'm not sure the current UW administration and athletic department posses.
ragtimejoe1
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Worst case now. Unlv and usu go pac. Unm and af go aac.
We get a 2 year grace period but man that would be tough.
Or some combo of that. I'm afraid we lose 4 more.
If the remaining 8 hold we'd get about 14 mill. Over the next 5 years that's a nice supplement to whatever our TV deal would be. I don't think we hold though.
We get a 2 year grace period but man that would be tough.
Or some combo of that. I'm afraid we lose 4 more.
If the remaining 8 hold we'd get about 14 mill. Over the next 5 years that's a nice supplement to whatever our TV deal would be. I don't think we hold though.
