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Re: New OC should be announced soon

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 8:14 pm
by Itsux2beaewe
Crow Creek wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 8:01 pm
OrediggerPoke wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 4:38 pm

Bertagnole?
Won’t be Jacory Hawkins, he has declared for the nfl draft.
Did he just declare today?

Re: New OC should be announced soon

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 9:50 pm
by LanderPoke
Itsux2beaewe wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 8:14 pm
Crow Creek wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 8:01 pm

Won’t be Jacory Hawkins, he has declared for the nfl draft.
Did he just declare today?
I think J Hawks was out eligibility anyway. He was a great player for us

Re: New OC should be announced soon

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:00 am
by BackHarlowRoad
PokeNer wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 1:25 pm The rumor is Grant called plays in Tucson and it was his chance to prove himself and be considered for OC.

Hearing this guy is being considered:

https://niuhuskies.com/sports/football/ ... sness/2284

Waylee is on the fence about entering the portal, and they hire would help keep him here.

Also, another rumor going around at the game is two big time D starters are going to announce their return. It’s not Shae since he announced. So maybe Gibbs and ?
Why would bringing in the guy he used to play for and TRANSFERRED AWAY FROM help keep him here? I'm confused by this.

If my roommate invited my ex girlfriend to come live with us, I'm out! lol

Re: New OC should be announced soon

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:32 am
by LawPoke
BackHarlowRoad wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:00 am
PokeNer wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 1:25 pm The rumor is Grant called plays in Tucson and it was his chance to prove himself and be considered for OC.

Hearing this guy is being considered:

https://niuhuskies.com/sports/football/ ... sness/2284

Waylee is on the fence about entering the portal, and they hire would help keep him here.

Also, another rumor going around at the game is two big time D starters are going to announce their return. It’s not Shae since he announced. So maybe Gibbs and ?
Why would bringing in the guy he used to play for and TRANSFERRED AWAY FROM help keep him here? I'm confused by this.

If my roommate invited my ex girlfriend to come live with us, I'm out! lol
Maybe he transferred for other reasons...I don't know. In any event, we should not hire an OC for the sole purpose of keeping a player with a single year of eligibility in the fold.

Re: New OC should be announced soon

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:49 am
by bullbugle307
PokeNer wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 1:25 pm The rumor is Grant called plays in Tucson and it was his chance to prove himself and be considered for OC.

Hearing this guy is being considered:

https://niuhuskies.com/sports/football/ ... sness/2284

Waylee is on the fence about entering the portal, and they hire would help keep him here.

Also, another rumor going around at the game is two big time D starters are going to announce their return. It’s not Shae since he announced. So maybe Gibbs and ?
Given how bad the play calling was at times I would tend towards believing that rumor 😂

Re: New OC should be announced soon

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:08 am
by doreno5
bullbugle307 wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:49 am
PokeNer wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 1:25 pm The rumor is Grant called plays in Tucson and it was his chance to prove himself and be considered for OC.

Hearing this guy is being considered:

https://niuhuskies.com/sports/football/ ... sness/2284

Waylee is on the fence about entering the portal, and they hire would help keep him here.

Also, another rumor going around at the game is two big time D starters are going to announce their return. It’s not Shae since he announced. So maybe Gibbs and ?
Given how bad the play calling was at times I would tend towards believing that rumor 😂
The play calling was bad for the majority of the game. If It was Grant's audition, he failed. I really hope we get someone from outside the program to take over the offense.

Re: New OC should be announced soon

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:14 am
by LawPoke
doreno5 wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:08 am
bullbugle307 wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:49 am

Given how bad the play calling was at times I would tend towards believing that rumor 😂
The play calling was bad for the majority of the game. If It was Grant's audition, he failed. I really hope we get someone from outside the program to take over the offense.
Grant and Tripodi need to kick rocks. The WR and OL were not good - as in, not good all year. Special Teams needs an upgrade too. Make it so, Saw.

Re: New OC should be announced soon

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 2:14 pm
by LanderPoke
LawPoke wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:14 am
doreno5 wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:08 am
The play calling was bad for the majority of the game. If It was Grant's audition, he failed. I really hope we get someone from outside the program to take over the offense.
Grant and Tripodi need to kick rocks. The WR and OL were not good - as in, not good all year. Special Teams needs an upgrade too. Make it so, Saw.
The entire offense needs to be torn down and rebuilt by someone outside the program currently. We can't go through another season of this!!!

Re: New OC should be announced soon

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:59 pm
by Itsux2beaewe
PokeNer wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 1:25 pm The rumor is Grant called plays in Tucson and it was his chance to prove himself and be considered for OC.

Hearing this guy is being considered:

https://niuhuskies.com/sports/football/ ... sness/2284

Waylee is on the fence about entering the portal, and they hire would help keep him here.

Also, another rumor going around at the game is two big time D starters are going to announce their return. It’s not Shae since he announced. So maybe Gibbs and ?
I would take this FB post from Waylee as promising.

📸 Look at this post on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/share/D4gGfuZa ... tid=WC7FNe

Re: New OC should be announced soon

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:50 pm
by PokeNer
Well rumors are apparently just that. Gibbs officially declared for the draft. I’m not sure who else it could be.

Re: New OC should be announced soon

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:21 pm
by LanderPoke
PokeNer wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:50 pm Well rumors are apparently just that. Gibbs officially declared for the draft. I’m not sure who else it could be.
Dang. Thought he might come back. I suppose he still could come back.

Re: New OC should be announced soon

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:23 pm
by 303cowboy
https://footballscoop.com/news/sources ... nator?s=01

Jay Johnson formally on Michigan states staff under tucker

Re: New OC should be announced soon

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:41 pm
by WYO1016
That would be a MONSTER get. Dude has been very good at coaching balanced offenses. Some players he has mentored:

Leviska Shenault - 2019 - 56 catches, 764 yds, 5 TDs
Keneth Walker III - 2021 - 1,636 rushing yards, 6.2 YPC, 18 TDs
Payton Thorne - 2021-2022 - 5,919 yards, 61.5% completion percentage, 46 TDs, 21 INTs

Michigan State's offense averages the 4 years he was there:
2020 - 238.9 passing yards per game, 91.4 rushing yards per game, 18 points per game
2021 - 253.7 passing yards, 175.6 rushing yards, 31.8 points
2022 - 240 passing yards, 113 rushing yards, 24.4 points
2023 - Not sure if he was there all season, but 199.8 passing yards, 89.5 rushing yards, 15.9 points

Re: New OC should be announced soon

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:46 pm
by PokeNer
WYO1016 wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:41 pm That would be a MONSTER get. Dude has been very good at coaching balanced offenses. Some players he has mentored:

Leviska Shenault - 2019 - 56 catches, 764 yds, 5 TDs
Keneth Walker III - 2021 - 1,636 rushing yards, 6.2 YPC, 18 TDs
Payton Thorne - 2021-2022 - 5,919 yards, 61.5% completion percentage, 46 TDs, 21 INTs

Michigan State's offense averages the 4 years he was there:
2020 - 238.9 passing yards per game, 91.4 rushing yards per game, 18 points per game
2021 - 253.7 passing yards, 175.6 rushing yards, 31.8 points
2022 - 240 passing yards, 113 rushing yards, 24.4 points
2023 - Not sure if he was there all season, but 199.8 passing yards, 89.5 rushing yards, 15.9 points
His point production was absolutely putrid though:

2023 - 131st in the nation
2022 - 91st
2021 - much better at 39th
2020 - 116th

First glance seems like a lousy hire.

Re: New OC should be announced soon

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:47 pm
by LawPoke
WYO1016 wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:41 pm That would be a MONSTER get. Dude has been very good at coaching balanced offenses. Some players he has mentored:

Leviska Shenault - 2019 - 56 catches, 764 yds, 5 TDs
Keneth Walker III - 2021 - 1,636 rushing yards, 6.2 YPC, 18 TDs
Payton Thorne - 2021-2022 - 5,919 yards, 61.5% completion percentage, 46 TDs, 21 INTs

Michigan State's offense averages the 4 years he was there:
2020 - 238.9 passing yards per game, 91.4 rushing yards per game, 18 points per game
2021 - 253.7 passing yards, 175.6 rushing yards, 31.8 points
2022 - 240 passing yards, 113 rushing yards, 24.4 points
2023 - Not sure if he was there all season, but 199.8 passing yards, 89.5 rushing yards, 15.9 points
Meatchicken State fans on X are extending condolences to us. That can't be good.

Re: New OC should be announced soon

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:48 pm
by OrediggerPoke
https://msuspartans.com/sports/football ... ohnson/954

This seems strange and out of nowhere. Will be interesting how the offensive staff fills out.

Re: New OC should be announced soon

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:48 pm
by WYO1016
He was the OC at Minnesota when Sawvel was the DC. Hire makes a lot of sense. I don't expect wholesale changes to the offense, but being competent at the forward pass would be refreshing to see.

Re: New OC should be announced soon

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:49 pm
by PokeNer
PokeNer wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:46 pm
WYO1016 wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:41 pm That would be a MONSTER get. Dude has been very good at coaching balanced offenses. Some players he has mentored:

Leviska Shenault - 2019 - 56 catches, 764 yds, 5 TDs
Keneth Walker III - 2021 - 1,636 rushing yards, 6.2 YPC, 18 TDs
Payton Thorne - 2021-2022 - 5,919 yards, 61.5% completion percentage, 46 TDs, 21 INTs

Michigan State's offense averages the 4 years he was there:
2020 - 238.9 passing yards per game, 91.4 rushing yards per game, 18 points per game
2021 - 253.7 passing yards, 175.6 rushing yards, 31.8 points
2022 - 240 passing yards, 113 rushing yards, 24.4 points
2023 - Not sure if he was there all season, but 199.8 passing yards, 89.5 rushing yards, 15.9 points
His point production was absolutely putrid though:

2023 - 131st in the nation
2022 - 91st
2021 - much better at 39th
2020 - 116th

First glance seems like a lousy hire.
Also Total Offense #s:

2023 - 128th in the nation at a whopping 289 yds/gm
2022 - 97th / 353 yds/gm
2021 - 43rd / 429 yds/gm
2020 - 109th / 330 yds/gm

Call me a pessimist, but this looks like poop to me.

Re: New OC should be announced soon

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:50 pm
by OrediggerPoke
WYO1016 wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:48 pm He was the OC at Minnesota when Sawvel was the DC. Hire makes a lot of sense. I don't expect wholesale changes to the offense, but being competent at the forward pass would be refreshing to see.
Ok, that’s the connection. He certainly has a lot of experience.

Re: New OC should be announced soon

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:52 pm
by WYO1016
LawPoke wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:47 pm
WYO1016 wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:41 pm That would be a MONSTER get. Dude has been very good at coaching balanced offenses. Some players he has mentored:

Leviska Shenault - 2019 - 56 catches, 764 yds, 5 TDs
Keneth Walker III - 2021 - 1,636 rushing yards, 6.2 YPC, 18 TDs
Payton Thorne - 2021-2022 - 5,919 yards, 61.5% completion percentage, 46 TDs, 21 INTs

Michigan State's offense averages the 4 years he was there:
2020 - 238.9 passing yards per game, 91.4 rushing yards per game, 18 points per game
2021 - 253.7 passing yards, 175.6 rushing yards, 31.8 points
2022 - 240 passing yards, 113 rushing yards, 24.4 points
2023 - Not sure if he was there all season, but 199.8 passing yards, 89.5 rushing yards, 15.9 points
Meatchicken State fans on X are extending condolences to us. That can't be good.
The Spartans were a dumpster fire this year. They're jaded. Johnson did a hell of a job under Mark Hudspeth at Louisiana.