Like Clockwork - Season Derailed with Fall Camp Injuries
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Buck Coors (hand) and Will Pellisier (finger) to have surgery. Pellisier was our most promising WR this year in my opinion. With McNeeley also out, I have to ask what we are doing in camp to sustain all these injuries that seem to be a yearly thing. Hopefully both can return quickly.
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Both seem to be prone to injury. McNeely too. This stinks! I like Pellisier and CoorsOrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 12:32 pm Buck Coors (hand) and Will Pellisier (finger) to have surgery. Pellisier was our most promising WR this year in my opinion. With McNeeley also out, I have to ask what we are doing in camp to sustain all these injuries that seem to be a yearly thing. Hopefully both can return quickly.
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Have to start wondering about if there is something about our program which leads to a greater incidence of injuries. Wyoming sure seems to be snake-bit.LanderPoke wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 1:21 pmBoth seem to be prone to injury. McNeely too. This stinks! I like Pellisier and CoorsOrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 12:32 pm Buck Coors (hand) and Will Pellisier (finger) to have surgery. Pellisier was our most promising WR this year in my opinion. With McNeeley also out, I have to ask what we are doing in camp to sustain all these injuries that seem to be a yearly thing. Hopefully both can return quickly.
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Bohl has a very old school mindset: use camp to break the players down and slowly build them back up.doreno5 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 3:54 pmHave to start wondering about if there is something about our program which leads to a greater incidence of injuries. Wyoming sure seems to be snake-bit.LanderPoke wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 1:21 pm
Both seem to be prone to injury. McNeely too. This stinks! I like Pellisier and Coors
The problem is, this isn't the 1980s anymore. Players are in strength and conditioning year round, they show up to day 1 of fall camp in the best shape they will be in all year. Bohl likes to grind, grind, grind. This leads to fatigue, which leads to injuries.
I can't compare to every FBS school, but he definitely goes harder than a lot of programs and often has to be convinced (by assistants, strength coaches, etc) to take some "lighter" days.
That certainly isn't the only reason behind injuries, but I think it is a big one for Wyo football.
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And it’s not like going hard does much for our preparation. In most early games, we look like garbage - perhaps save the Mizzou game several years ago. It would be one thing if going hard made us sharp as steel out of the gate - but it seems it makes us fatigued and lethargic. The tough guy schtick is really wearing thin.WestWYOPoke wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 11:06 pmBohl has a very old school mindset: use camp to break the players down and slowly build them back up.
The problem is, this isn't the 1980s anymore. Players are in strength and conditioning year round, they show up to day 1 of fall camp in the best shape they will be in all year. Bohl likes to grind, grind, grind. This leads to fatigue, which leads to injuries.
I can't compare to every FBS school, but he definitely goes harder than a lot of programs and often has to be convinced (by assistants, strength coaches, etc) to take some "lighter" days.
That certainly isn't the only reason behind injuries, but I think it is a big one for Wyo football.
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Not trying to defend going hard or going soft in camp...but, it's not like we have had success (more than 8 wins) with any approach for a very long time.LawPoke wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2023 6:23 pmAnd it’s not like going hard does much for our preparation. In most early games, we look like garbage - perhaps save the Mizzou game several years ago. It would be one thing if going hard made us sharp as steel out of the gate - but it seems it makes us fatigued and lethargic. The tough guy schtick is really wearing thin.WestWYOPoke wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 11:06 pm
Bohl has a very old school mindset: use camp to break the players down and slowly build them back up.
The problem is, this isn't the 1980s anymore. Players are in strength and conditioning year round, they show up to day 1 of fall camp in the best shape they will be in all year. Bohl likes to grind, grind, grind. This leads to fatigue, which leads to injuries.
I can't compare to every FBS school, but he definitely goes harder than a lot of programs and often has to be convinced (by assistants, strength coaches, etc) to take some "lighter" days.
That certainly isn't the only reason behind injuries, but I think it is a big one for Wyo football.
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Seems to be a reoccurring theme. We simply don't have the depth to absorb these kind season ending injuries. Bohl comes from the Osborne Nebraska way.... tough practices and next man up... But the roster depth isn't there.
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True. My sentiment tracks cornpoke's - we don't have the depth to do what Bohl insists on doing.307bball wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:36 pmNot trying to defend going hard or going soft in camp...but, it's not like we have had success (more than 8 wins) with any approach for a very long time.LawPoke wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2023 6:23 pm
And it’s not like going hard does much for our preparation. In most early games, we look like garbage - perhaps save the Mizzou game several years ago. It would be one thing if going hard made us sharp as steel out of the gate - but it seems it makes us fatigued and lethargic. The tough guy schtick is really wearing thin.
That said, your point is also correct. I could argue that more depth would help, but IMHO, Bohl's lame offensive philosophy and belief in people like Grant persist, we will NEVER win more than 8 games.
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This. IMHO, this is the biggest problem with the program. He fixes this and we put up a bronze statue in his honor.LawPoke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:24 pmTrue. My sentiment tracks cornpoke's - we don't have the depth to do what Bohl insists on doing.
That said, your point is also correct. I could argue that more depth would help, but IMHO, Bohl's lame offensive philosophy and belief in people like Grant persist, we will NEVER win more than 8 games.
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yeah....it would be great to have zero injuries but, in reality, is it going to matter to this offense...nah. What...we go from last on offense to ... last?flyfishwyo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 4:09 pmThis. IMHO, this is the biggest problem with the program. He fixes this and we put up a bronze statue in his honor.LawPoke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:24 pm
True. My sentiment tracks cornpoke's - we don't have the depth to do what Bohl insists on doing.
That said, your point is also correct. I could argue that more depth would help, but IMHO, Bohl's lame offensive philosophy and belief in people like Grant persist, we will NEVER win more than 8 games.
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Every team gets hit with injuries. No team goes unscathed pretty sure Texas Tech has a few as well.
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Except they have depth...we DON'T.Wyomingisgreat1 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:26 pm Every team gets hit with injuries. No team goes unscathed pretty sure Texas Tech has a few as well.
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Pretending that if we practiced different we'd end up with fewer injuries seems like a ridiculous argument if you haven't established that we do indeed have more injuries during the fall camp than other programs. I'm willing to bet that Boise st. goes harder than we do.
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