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QBs.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 10:27 pm
by WyoVaquero
Will we ever find one ? :thumbdown:

Re: QBs.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 10:37 pm
by LanderPoke
Josh freaking Allen struggled in this offense. Bohl is the problem

Re: QBs.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:02 pm
by DamThatRiver22
Not like we've had this exact thread/discussion 3 or 4 times this last few weeks, lmao.

The QBs aren't the problem. Full stop.

Re: QBs.

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:29 pm
by WyoVaquero
Our passing scheme sucks, but Our QBs are not very good. They make bad decisions within the bad system.

Re: QBs.

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:13 pm
by laxwyo
WyoVaquero wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:29 pm Our passing scheme sucks, but Our QBs are not very good. They make bad decisions within the bad system.
Fresno was a dumpster without Haener. Boise looked average with Bachmeier. Utah st would probably beat us had they not been on 3rd string. Qbs matter. You could argue that it’s too difficult to find a qb for this system. That’s fine.

Re: QBs.

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 2:23 pm
by bladerunnr
laxwyo wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:13 pm
WyoVaquero wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:29 pm Our passing scheme sucks, but Our QBs are not very good. They make bad decisions within the bad system.
Fresno was a dumpster without Haener. Boise looked average with Bachmeier. Utah st would probably beat us had they not been on 3rd string. Qbs matter. You could argue that it’s too difficult to find a qb for this system. That’s fine.
Not only do qb's matter, I think you could argue in today's offenses, a qb is essential just to be competitive. Our defense and running game made up for our mostly mediocre qb play this year. But against a good team, we can't be competitive. I don't see Peasley even trying to read the defense. The ball is thrown regardless of where the defenders are. Maybe he doesn't see them. I don't know. I don't know if it's his fault or the coaching. But I've not seen one qb who has improved with time at Wyoming under Bohl. You could argue that Chambers and Williams actually got worse.

Dennis Erikson came to Wyoming and turned a wishbone qb into a throwing machine in his first and only year. Tiller knew the passing game unlike maybe any coach we've had. If we want to compete for conference championships, we need different coaching - either at the top, or the coordinators and position coaches. We need a quarterback whisperer. And I'm afraid what we have now is just the opposite.

Re: QBs.

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:29 pm
by laxwyo
bladerunnr wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 2:23 pm
laxwyo wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:13 pm

Fresno was a dumpster without Haener. Boise looked average with Bachmeier. Utah st would probably beat us had they not been on 3rd string. Qbs matter. You could argue that it’s too difficult to find a qb for this system. That’s fine.
Not only do qb's matter, I think you could argue in today's offenses, a qb is essential just to be competitive. Our defense and running game made up for our mostly mediocre qb play this year. But against a good team, we can't be competitive. I don't see Peasley even trying to read the defense. The ball is thrown regardless of where the defenders are. Maybe he doesn't see them. I don't know. I don't know if it's his fault or the coaching. But I've not seen one qb who has improved with time at Wyoming under Bohl. You could argue that Chambers and Williams actually got worse.

Dennis Erikson came to Wyoming and turned a wishbone qb into a throwing machine in his first and only year. Tiller knew the passing game unlike maybe any coach we've had. If we want to compete for conference championships, we need different coaching - either at the top, or the coordinators and position coaches. We need a quarterback whisperer. And I'm afraid what we have now is just the opposite.
I don’t understand how we couldn’t run elements of spread on obvious passing plays. 3rd and 6 etc. I get that you want to run play action off power run and you can keep that. You can keep all your power run, counters off that, play action etc, but simplify the passing game. I’m not entirely sure how spread works, but it must be fairly simple if most highschool and college run it while having plug and play qbs