Re: OT: Could 2020 just end now!!!!!!
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:20 pm
This is pure nonsense, of course. 75 percent of all African American children are in single parent households. Those households are predominantly headed by non college educated females with limited job skills. This is a prime example of looking at the results and then, with the pre disposed notion that America is a racist nation, pinning the cause on all the white racists. No one forced those women to give birth out of wedlock. In fact, abortions are a readily available and free option through planned parenthood. The economic and social benefits of a 2 parent household are statistically overwhelming. White kids born into the same poor single parent situation suffer the same fates as black kids. But when you use a vague term like "systemic racism", then you don't have to define your terms. The fact is: This country has had numerous and far reaching affirmative action programs to benefit African Americans for the last 50 years. I can tell you in my days in public accounting, if you were an African American, you were a "shoe in" in my firm. Numerous public and private industries were/are required to hire a percentage or number of black applicants. It's just amazing to me that people hate American govt and or history to the extent that they irrationally blame all of society's ills on it.WestWYOPoke wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:50 pmI'm sure you've heard the talking point about black-on-black crime...this talking point is evidence of systemic racism, but why you might ask?ZapPoke wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:32 pmThanks Expat, this is one of the best posts I have seen in this thread. I need someone to define “systemic racism”. I just don’t see it. Houston is one of the most racially diverse cities in the country. We didn’t experience the severe rioting other large cities did. Perhaps that is why I don’t see the racism because we just don’t have it. Back in the 60’s even Houston didn’t have the race issues of other places. One day some black students from TSU went into a “whites only” lunch counter. They didn’t raise a ruckus, they just sat there. The business leaders got together and that night all the “whites only” signs disappeared. And it was over. That is why we respect MLK. he accomplished what he did without violence or riots.Expat_Poke wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:42 am[/url]WestWYOPoke wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:54 pm
First off, the one incident comment was brought up because you literally said "To take one incident and make it indicative of the nation at large is questionable, at best."
To the second part of your comment, no, not all white people are racist, but yes this absolutely is a racist nation, has been basically since it was founded. Want proof, turn on the tv.
To sum up, would someone please provide a definition and evidence of systemic racism?
Well, to summarize:
It is true, if you look at just numbers based on race, their is much higher black-on-black crime in this country than other demographics, BUT that is the wrong mitigating factor.
The true mitigating factor is socioeconomic status (SES). When factoring for SES, we find that crime among all demographics is almost equal. In fact, white-on-white crime might actually be higher than black-on-black when SES is neutralized.
So why then, do we have high numbers of black-on-black crime in this country? It is because the black community is disproportionately in a lower SES bracket than their counter parts. Which leads us to the question of why that is? There's only really 2 options to consider: A) people of color are "lazier" or naturally less able than others (an obvious racist statement), or B) our very system is setup to discriminate against people of color.
Since I would like to think no one on this board, and very few people in this country think the answer is actually option A, then we are likely looking at option B for the actual reasoning.
I'm sure there are other examples as well, but this is one of this most simplistic to discuss and understand.
TLDR: race doesn't affect crime, SES status does, black community is disproportionately Low SES, they are low SES because of systemic racism.