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bullbugle307 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:19 am I don't see too much use in hyping this class up until these guys actually see the field and give us results. We certainly got some good recruits, but I think it's a little early to put up a mission accomplished banner on the HAPC as the be all end all fix to our football problems, as many seem to believe. 247 sports has us at 6th best recruiting class in the MWC, and 99 in the country with this class. While that's an increase from 12th in the MWC and 127th nationally in 2018, it's an identical national ranking from the 99 they had us at in 2017. That's not a bad thing to match your best class as a coach, but it wasn't a huge increase as one might expect. Also, the Glenn/Christensen transition had higher nationally ranked recruiting classes (ranging form 74th to mid 90's), at least according to 247. This is all way subjective, as you never know what you have until you get to look back at the results, but it raises several questions. Did the HAPC actually give us a good recruiting bump this year that was negated by last year's season, coaching attrition and our problems on offense? Did it make no difference and our coaches just hit another "good" class like they did in 2017? Is it somewhere in between? Five years from now we'll have a much better idea.

Aside from that, I don't think anyone ever said the HAPC would not help recruiting. It obviously isn't gonna hurt, but most of the discussion was whether we were really getting ahead of the competition vs keeping up, was the cost worth it at the time, would our bad offense and questionable coaching decisions at times offset the positives from the HAPC with recruiting in the short term, would the problems of recruiting students from across the country to a place like Laramie be offset by HAPC etc...

LanderPoke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:30 pm

OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:23 pm On paper, this is Wyoming's best class I can remember.

There were threads earlier this season indicating that the HAPC was a waste of money. Well year 1 of recruiting results are in...

Now we just need to get some bag men out there to start distributing money....

ItSucksToBeACSURam wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:20 pm

303cowboy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:19 pm

holy sh*t! what a day!

Damn. This is a helluva recruiting class...

Wyoming is beating out teams like ASU... HELL YES!

hutchenc wrote: ↑Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:52 am

ItSucksToBeACSURam wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:20 pm

303cowboy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:19 pm

holy sh*t! what a day!

Damn. This is a helluva recruiting class...

Wyoming is beating out teams like ASU... HELL YES!

Actually, ASU is beating out Wyoming in terms of recruiting ranking. ASU is in the top 50% ranking in their (arguably) better conference. UW is in the bottom 50% (ranked number 7 now, after NSD 2) in their not competitive conference. These rankings are according to 247.

Nice win for UW on this one recruit for sure, but UW isn't out-recruiting any Pac12 school.

hutchenc wrote: ↑Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:52 am

ItSucksToBeACSURam wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:20 pm

303cowboy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:19 pm

holy sh*t! what a day!

Damn. This is a helluva recruiting class...

Wyoming is beating out teams like ASU... HELL YES!

Actually, ASU is beating out Wyoming in terms of recruiting ranking. ASU is in the top 50% ranking in their (arguably) better conference. UW is in the bottom 50% (ranked number 7 now, after NSD 2) in their not competitive conference. These rankings are according to 247.

Nice win for UW on this one recruit for sure, but UW isn't out-recruiting any Pac12 school.

LanderPoke wrote: ↑Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:12 pmyou might be mentally retarded

bullbugle307 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:19 am I don't see too much use in hyping this class up until these guys actually see the field and give us results. We certainly got some good recruits, but I think it's a little early to put up a mission accomplished banner on the HAPC as the be all end all fix to our football problems, as many seem to believe. 247 sports has us at 6th best recruiting class in the MWC, and 99 in the country with this class. While that's an increase from 12th in the MWC and 127th nationally in 2018, it's an identical national ranking from the 99 they had us at in 2017. That's not a bad thing to match your best class as a coach, but it wasn't a huge increase as one might expect. Also, the Glenn/Christensen transition had higher nationally ranked recruiting classes (ranging form 74th to mid 90's), at least according to 247. This is all way subjective, as you never know what you have until you get to look back at the results, but it raises several questions. Did the HAPC actually give us a good recruiting bump this year that was negated by last year's season, coaching attrition and our problems on offense? Did it make no difference and our coaches just hit another "good" class like they did in 2017? Is it somewhere in between? Five years from now we'll have a much better idea.

Aside from that, I don't think anyone ever said the HAPC would not help recruiting. It obviously isn't gonna hurt, but most of the discussion was whether we were really getting ahead of the competition vs keeping up, was the cost worth it at the time, would our bad offense and questionable coaching decisions at times offset the positives from the HAPC with recruiting in the short term, would the problems of recruiting students from across the country to a place like Laramie be offset by HAPC etc...