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WyomingAg wrote: ↑Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:17 pm Been looking through historical stats these last few weeks. Here are our total offense and total defense rankings at end of year for the past 15 years.

Glenn years:
2003 (117 FBS teams) - Total O: 82 (Cockhill), Total D: 102 (Breske), Record 4-8
2004 (117 FBS teams) - Total O: 62 (Cockhill), Total D: 67 (Breske), Record 7-5
2005 (117 FBS teams) - Total O: 65 (Cockhill), Total D: 61 (Breske), Record 4-7
2006 (119 FBS teams) - Total O: 91 (Cockhill), Total D: 9 (Breske), Record 6-6
2007 (119 FBS teams) - Total O: 106 (Cole), Total D: 22 (Breske), Record 5-7
2008 (119 FBS teams) - Total O: 108 (Cole), Total D: 38 (Breske), Record 4-8

Christensen years;
2009 (120 FBS teams) - Total O: 107 (Arroyo), Total D: 81 (English), Record 7-6
2010 (120 FBS teams) - Total O: 116 (Arroyo), Total D: 92 (English), Record 3-9
2011 (120 FBS teams) - Total O: 59 (Brandon), Total D: 98 (English), Record 8-5
2012 (120 FBS teams) - Total O: 70 (Brandon), Total D: 106 (Tormey), Record 5-7
2013 (123 FBS teams) - Total O: 22 (Kaligis/Harding), Total D: 111 (Tormey), Record 4-8

Bohl years:
2014 (125 FBS teams) - Total O: 81 (Vigen), Total D: 89 (Stanard), Record 5-7
2015 (127 FBS teams) - Total O: 100 (Vigen), Total D: 91 (Stanard), Record 2-10
2016 (128 FBS teams) - Total O: 48 (Vigen), Total D: 104 (Stanard), Record 8-6
2017 (129 FBS teams) - Total O: 125 (Vigen), Total D: 23 (Hazelton), Record 8-5
*2018 (129 FBS teams) - Total O: 126* (Vigen), Total D: 64* (Hazelton), Record 2-4

*2018 is through the first 6 games.

There are only 3 cases where one side of the ball was in the bottom 10 in the nation. Christensen's offense his 2nd year, and Bohl's offense both last year and this year. Lots of other bad years in there on one side or the other, but those 3 were the worst at least in total offense ranking.

The only consistency we have had was Glenn's 3 final years of defense all in the top 40. No other case of even 2 years in a row of one side of the ball in the top 40

Asmodeanreborn wrote: ↑Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:24 pm Hawai'i's getting plowed by BYU as well. They've scored 40+ against a team we barely put up 6 offensive points against.

LanderPoke wrote: ↑Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:30 pmBohl sucks

seattlecowboy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:28 pm
If you averaged all of those out I believe Bohl's teams would be last in Offense and Defense both out of the 3 coaches.

Brown and Gold wrote: ↑Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:26 am We are never going to get a coach that will win here consistently. This is as good as it gets. College football has past us up and we only get guys who we can afford. We have a contract with Bohl through 2023 so we may as well dig in and stop comparing him with former coaches. We are all aware that we have had coaches we could afford and that will never change. We get lucky on recruiting once in a while but kids don't want to come here. Our football team is rock bottom again no doubt but there's no coach out there who can change the mindset of Wyoming...not one we can afford anyhow.

Brown and Gold wrote: ↑Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:26 am We are never going to get a coach that will win here consistently. This is as good as it gets. College football has past us up and we only get guys who we can afford. We have a contract with Bohl through 2023 so we may as well dig in and stop comparing him with former coaches. We are all aware that we have had coaches we could afford and that will never change. We get lucky on recruiting once in a while but kids don't want to come here. Our football team is rock bottom again no doubt but there's no coach out there who can change the mindset of Wyoming...not one we can afford anyhow.

LanderPoke wrote: ↑Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:16 am

Brown and Gold wrote: ↑Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:26 am We are never going to get a coach that will win here consistently. This is as good as it gets. College football has past us up and we only get guys who we can afford. We have a contract with Bohl through 2023 so we may as well dig in and stop comparing him with former coaches. We are all aware that we have had coaches we could afford and that will never change. We get lucky on recruiting once in a while but kids don't want to come here. Our football team is rock bottom again no doubt but there's no coach out there who can change the mindset of Wyoming...not one we can afford anyhow.

That is bs. There are coaches in this conference that make way less that are way better. Don’t have a loser mentality

Brown and Gold wrote: ↑Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:11 pm Give me evidence that we can get enough kids to come here that are good enough to keep winning. It doesn't matter who coaches us. We aren't going to get beyond the piddly bowl games and 8-4 seasons. We were fortunate to have that for two years. This is our high point for a while. Hopefully we get lucky with a few recruits so we can get back to the potato bowl. Just keep Bohl through his contract and see what happens. No more of the coaching change and start over garbage.

bullbugle307 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:25 pm No doubt there's a lot of problems with our coaching, but its ignorance to ignore the laramie effect on our athletic programs. Why would a highly touted recruit want to go to school in Laramie? It's cold, it's windy, and the best thing it has to offer is outdoor activities that a college football player probably has no time for. The town cranks out alcoholic college students for a reason. I love Laramie and I loved UW when I was there (mostly for hunting and fishing opportunities), but we have to realize that there are some things about Laramie we will never change no matter who our coach is or how much we spend on training facilities. Keep Bohl if he's willing to make changes on offense, but as a fan base we need to be realistic and stop with this pie in the sky mentality that we're going to compete for a MW Championship every year.

bullbugle307 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:25 pm No doubt there's a lot of problems with our coaching, but its ignorance to ignore the laramie effect on our athletic programs. Why would a highly touted recruit want to go to school in Laramie? It's cold, it's windy, and the best thing it has to offer is outdoor activities that a college football player probably has no time for. The town cranks out alcoholic college students for a reason. I love Laramie and I loved UW when I was there (mostly for hunting and fishing opportunities), but we have to realize that there are some things about Laramie we will never change no matter who our coach is or how much we spend on training facilities. Keep Bohl if he's willing to make changes on offense, but as a fan base we need to be realistic and stop with this pie in the sky mentality that we're going to compete for a MW Championship every year.

Poke in New England wrote: ↑Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:36 pm

bullbugle307 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:25 pm No doubt there's a lot of problems with our coaching, but its ignorance to ignore the laramie effect on our athletic programs. Why would a highly touted recruit want to go to school in Laramie? It's cold, it's windy, and the best thing it has to offer is outdoor activities that a college football player probably has no time for. The town cranks out alcoholic college students for a reason. I love Laramie and I loved UW when I was there (mostly for hunting and fishing opportunities), but we have to realize that there are some things about Laramie we will never change no matter who our coach is or how much we spend on training facilities. Keep Bohl if he's willing to make changes on offense, but as a fan base we need to be realistic and stop with this pie in the sky mentality that we're going to compete for a MW Championship every year.

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