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Love Bohl, but...
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:32 pm
by ragtimejoe1
Eerily similar to Glenn. Actually, Glenn's Vegas Bowl team is the best of both coaches so far.
We need to let this ride a few years but Bohl (mainly Vigen) is on notice. Glenn waited on Cockhill too.
Re: Love Bohl, but...
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:40 pm
by calpoke25
ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:32 pm
Eerily similar to Glenn. Actually, Glenn's Vegas Bowl team is the best of both coaches so far.
We need to let this ride a few years but Bohl (mainly Vigen) is on notice. Glenn waited on Cockhill too.
Agree with your point but Glenn’s best team was 2006.
Re: Love Bohl, but...
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:50 pm
by SDPokeFan
At least Glenn could beat a P5 team. Bohl’s teams get piss pounded.
Re: Love Bohl, but...
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:55 pm
by 307bball
I'm going to begrudgingly agree here...like Bohl a lot...I'm getting that Glenn feeling though. Lets see how conference standings play out this season. The boys have a chance at turning this turd of a start into something good. (Not that I'm predicting it or anything.)
When I step back ... and honestly ask myself what I thought our record would be three games into the season...It's 1-2.
Re: Love Bohl, but...
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:01 pm
by Cornpoke
To be fair Glenn had to play in a much tougher MWC than Bohl has had to face. No TCU, Utah, or BYU. Plus Glenn had a pretty good record against P5.
Re: Love Bohl, but...
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:03 pm
by calpoke25
Cornpoke wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:01 pm
To be fair Glenn had to play in a much tougher MWC than Bohl has had to face. No TCU, Utah, or BYU. Plus Glenn had a pretty good record against P5.
Yea, also can’t underestimate how poor the MW is today compared to then.
Re: Love Bohl, but...
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:14 pm
by 307bball
So...I'm asking myself is there something systemically going on at wyo that keeps the high water mark for this program where it is? It seems like since Dana Dimel the cycle is:
1. New coach inherits dumpster fire
2. Gets leeway to implement new system (usually with no relation to previous system)
3. Actually puts together a two year stretch of decent football resulting in a bowl win/appearence.
4. Whatever was working during the better results starts to not work.
5. Players begin to quit on team.
6. Dumpster fire season occurs.
7. go back to step one.
I really hope we are not at step 4.
Re: Love Bohl, but...
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:16 pm
by calpoke25
307bball wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:14 pm
So...I'm asking myself is there something systemically going on at wyo that keeps the high water mark for this program where it is? It seems like since Dana Dimel the cycle is:
1. New coach inherits dumpster fire
2. Gets leeway to implement new system (usually with no relation to previous system)
3. Actually puts together a two year stretch of decent football resulting in a bowl win/appearence.
4. Whatever was working during the better results starts to not work.
5. Players begin to quit on team.
6. Dumpster fire season occurs.
7. go back to step one.
I really hope we are not at step 4.
Really all you can do is keep repeating the cycle until you get lucky and stumble upon the next Urban Meyer.
Re: Love Bohl, but...
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:19 pm
by ragtimejoe1
Huge Bohl supporter but if you lined up Glenn's teams vs Bohl's in first five years, I think Glenn would be 4-1.
Again, I really like Bohl but it is what it is. We can compete in a dilapidated MWC but we'd get smoked in the MWC of old.
Re: Love Bohl, but...
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:21 pm
by 307bball
calpoke25 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:16 pm
307bball wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:14 pm
So...I'm asking myself is there something systemically going on at wyo that keeps the high water mark for this program where it is? It seems like since Dana Dimel the cycle is:
1. New coach inherits dumpster fire
2. Gets leeway to implement new system (usually with no relation to previous system)
3. Actually puts together a two year stretch of decent football resulting in a bowl win/appearence.
4. Whatever was working during the better results starts to not work.
5. Players begin to quit on team.
6. Dumpster fire season occurs.
7. go back to step one.
I really hope we are not at step 4.
Really all you can do is keep repeating the cycle until you get lucky and stumble upon the next Urban Meyer.
That is my suspicion...still sux though. I'd love to get to be like the Iowa Hawkeye program. Sustained success with coaching stability...is this even possible in non P5 program? Is the name of the game at Wyo just to play coaching roullette? What makes some schools historically better/worse?
Re: Love Bohl, but...
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:21 pm
by SDPokeFan
His offense only works when you’re bigger, faster, stronger. This isn’t North Dakota St. The offensive line and backs aren’t good enough to run a pro style ground and pound.
Re: Love Bohl, but...
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:22 pm
by ragtimejoe1
calpoke25 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:40 pm
ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:32 pm
Eerily similar to Glenn. Actually, Glenn's Vegas Bowl team is the best of both coaches so far.
We need to let this ride a few years but Bohl (mainly Vigen) is on notice. Glenn waited on Cockhill too.
Agree with your point but Glenn’s best team was 2006.
Touche. Won't disagree.
Re: Love Bohl, but...
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:27 pm
by Brown and Gold
We're not gonna change our head coach.
Re: Love Bohl, but...
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:33 pm
by calpoke25
In all honesty a university serious about football would’ve fired their coach after that SJSU game last year. We think we’re serious because we build a few nice facilities.
Re: Love Bohl, but...
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:36 pm
by ragtimejoe1
Brown and Gold wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:27 pm
We're not gonna change our head coach.
I sure hope not. However, I do hope Bohl adjusts the O.
Fanboys might be shocked, but Bohl is largely benefiting from a very weak MWC. Glenn through 5 years was better.
Bohl will get us there but it's going to take a decade.
Re: Love Bohl, but...
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:36 pm
by 307bball
calpoke25 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:33 pm
In all honesty a university serious about football would’ve fired their coach after that SJSU game last year. We think we’re serious because we build a few nice facilities.
Is that the problem at UW? Too much acceptance of Mediocrity?
Re: Love Bohl, but...
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:37 pm
by 307bball
ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:36 pm
Brown and Gold wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:27 pm
We're not gonna change our head coach.
I sure hope not. However, I do hope Bohl adjusts the O.
Fanboys might be shocked, but Bohl is largely benefiting from a very weak MWC. Glenn through 5 years was better.
Bohl will get us there but it's going to take a decade.
I'm fine with that...Just show some progress.
Re: Love Bohl, but...
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:41 pm
by 2011BisonAlumni
SDPokeFan wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:21 pm
His offense only works when you’re bigger, faster, stronger. This isn’t North Dakota St. The offensive line and backs aren’t good enough to run a pro style ground and pound.
You are right this isn’t NDSU....NDSU beats P5 schools on a regular basis.
He beat P5 schools at NDSU using that exact same offense.
It’s just that you are Wyoming....
Re: Love Bohl, but...
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:48 pm
by ragtimejoe1
2011BisonAlumni wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:41 pm
SDPokeFan wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:21 pm
His offense only works when you’re bigger, faster, stronger. This isn’t North Dakota St. The offensive line and backs aren’t good enough to run a pro style ground and pound.
You are right this isn’t NDSU....NDSU beats P5 schools on a regular basis.
He beat P5 schools at NDSU using that exact same offense.
It’s just that you are Wyoming....
Didn't seem to be an issue for Glenn at WYO.
Fanboys. Sheesh.
Re: Love Bohl, but...
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:49 pm
by seattlecowboy
2011BisonAlumni wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:41 pm
SDPokeFan wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:21 pm
His offense only works when you’re bigger, faster, stronger. This isn’t North Dakota St. The offensive line and backs aren’t good enough to run a pro style ground and pound.
You are right this isn’t NDSU....NDSU beats P5 schools on a regular basis.
He beat P5 schools at NDSU using that exact same offense.
It’s just that you are Wyoming....
He beat horrible P5 teams at NDSU. He only beat one half decent team there. The rest were really bad teams. NDSU would have a losing record if they played an FBS schedule. He also lost to Wyoming while at NDSU.