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So this Bohl ball thing is kinda workin

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:33 pm
by Poke-proud
joshvanklomp wrote:
whyoh wrote:I agree.....tbh (not that I agree with this) he may not even be perceived as being in the top 2 of the mw let alone nationally at this point......
This is a good point that I hadn't even considered.

When you look into the stats a little more, I think his perception drops a little more. Sure, he's 6th in FBS in rushing...but he's just 97th in yards per carry.

This junior class is loaded, and I'm guessing most of them will go pro early. Names like Leoard Fournette, Dalvin Cook, Christian McCaffrey, Royce Freeman, Nick Chubb all have more name value across the country. Looking closer to home, I think a guy like Jeremy McNichols will get more pub than Hill because he went to Boise.

Hill is currently rated by CBS Sports as a 5th to 6th round pick and just the 18th-best RB of the potential draft class. At that point, is it really worth it?
A case could be made that his "yards per carry" would be higher with a better OL. Just sayin. Hill has had to earn yards others don't.


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Re: So this Bohl ball thing is kinda workin

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:55 pm
by joshvanklomp
Poke-proud wrote:A case could be made that his "yards per carry" would be higher with a better OL. Just sayin. Hill has had to earn yards others don't.
Scouts aren't always looking at that though, and they usually won't blame an OL for an RB's struggles when watching tape. You don't always have an all-american OL. What are you doing behind a mediocre line?

So this Bohl ball thing is kinda workin

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:57 pm
by Poke-proud
joshvanklomp wrote:
Poke-proud wrote:A case could be made that his "yards per carry" would be higher with a better OL. Just sayin. Hill has had to earn yards others don't.
Scouts aren't always looking at that though, and they usually won't blame an OL for an RB's struggles when watching tape. You don't always have an all-american OL. What are you doing behind a mediocre line?
Agreed, that's why many of us realize how well Bohl can recruit and find talent. Many would ask how did Hill get here. I'm glad he is.


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Re: So this Bohl ball thing is kinda workin

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:12 pm
by Cowboy Junky
We'll be fine at running back. We have a Parade All-American taking a redshirt this year in addition to Nico Evans and Milo Hall. Overstreet is a north/south runner with some power. He's not Brian Hill, but he should excel in our system. Hall gives us an element of speed/quickness we haven't had at running back since Demo.

Maybe Hill comes back. I'm just going to assume he won't.

Re: So this Bohl ball thing is kinda workin

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:12 pm
by joshvanklomp
I'll be honest, I'm somewhat concerned about Overstreet. I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable with him as the main guy.

One nice thing about if Hill stays is it'd bridge the gap nicely to the start of Theo Dawson's career.

Re: So this Bohl ball thing is kinda workin

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:53 pm
by J-Rod
Bohl and NDSU rolled in bell cow RB after bell cow RB. Wyo will be fine there.

Re: So this Bohl ball thing is kinda workin

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:46 pm
by wyokoke
I'm actually more excited about Hall than Overstreet. Dunno if he can shoulder the full load but I think he's good

Re: So this Bohl ball thing is kinda workin

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:02 pm
by PokeOLoco
The lack of receiving skills is killing his stock. That is today's NFL, and a big part of the pro style/west coast offense. We utilized him that way a lot his first couple years but this year he only has 10 receiving yards thus far.

Re: So this Bohl ball thing is kinda workin

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:43 pm
by fromolwyoming
PokeOLoco wrote:The lack of receiving skills is killing his stock. That is today's NFL, and a big part of the pro style/west coast offense. We utilized him that way a lot his first couple years but this year he only has 10 receiving yards thus far.
Haven't really targeted, or even used much to begin with, in the passing game.

Re: So this Bohl ball thing is kinda workin

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:15 pm
by Wyo2dal
Not sure I agree with the bad at blocking I actually think that is one of his assets. I remember a few games where the announcers would comment that when Hill was out the back up was not blocking as good as Hill.

Now I won't say he is super blocker but I'm sorry NFL backs don't block much unless it's a blitz or someone gets through the line and there are not a lot off great blocking backs

Also you guys not recall the Fresno game Hill can catch just fine.


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Re: So this Bohl ball thing is kinda workin

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:55 pm
by Cuttslam
Wyo2dal wrote:Not sure I agree with the bad at blocking I actually think that is one of his assets. I remember a few games where the announcers would comment that when Hill was out the back up was not blocking as good as Hill.

Now I won't say he is super blocker but I'm sorry NFL backs don't block much unless it's a blitz or someone gets through the line and there are not a lot off great blocking backs

Also you guys not recall the Fresno game Hill can catch just fine.


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Hill for the season has 2 receptions for 10 yds.It just makes you wonder why.

Re: So this Bohl ball thing is kinda workin

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:58 pm
by fromolwyoming
Cuttslam wrote:
Wyo2dal wrote:Not sure I agree with the bad at blocking I actually think that is one of his assets. I remember a few games where the announcers would comment that when Hill was out the back up was not blocking as good as Hill.

Now I won't say he is super blocker but I'm sorry NFL backs don't block much unless it's a blitz or someone gets through the line and there are not a lot off great blocking backs

Also you guys not recall the Fresno game Hill can catch just fine.


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Hill for the season has 2 receptions for 10 yds.It just makes you wonder why.
He's not often sent out for routes, but usually kept as an extra blocker or for the playaction.

Re: So this Bohl ball thing is kinda workin

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:11 pm
by Cuttslam
fromolwyoming wrote:
Cuttslam wrote:
Wyo2dal wrote:Not sure I agree with the bad at blocking I actually think that is one of his assets. I remember a few games where the announcers would comment that when Hill was out the back up was not blocking as good as Hill.

Now I won't say he is super blocker but I'm sorry NFL backs don't block much unless it's a blitz or someone gets through the line and there are not a lot off great blocking backs

Also you guys not recall the Fresno game Hill can catch just fine.


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Hill for the season has 2 receptions for 10 yds.It just makes you wonder why.
He's not often sent out for routes, but usually kept as an extra blocker or for the playaction.
Hill is a Huge playmaker. Why don't they use him coming out of the backfield with a linebacker to beat. I'd take that match up all day but the don't. Why are they limiting our biggest asset. Unless?

Re: So this Bohl ball thing is kinda workin

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:21 am
by LanderPoke
Cuttslam wrote:
fromolwyoming wrote:
Cuttslam wrote:
Wyo2dal wrote:Not sure I agree with the bad at blocking I actually think that is one of his assets. I remember a few games where the announcers would comment that when Hill was out the back up was not blocking as good as Hill.

Now I won't say he is super blocker but I'm sorry NFL backs don't block much unless it's a blitz or someone gets through the line and there are not a lot off great blocking backs

Also you guys not recall the Fresno game Hill can catch just fine.


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Hill for the season has 2 receptions for 10 yds.It just makes you wonder why.
He's not often sent out for routes, but usually kept as an extra blocker or for the playaction.
Hill is a Huge playmaker. Why don't they use him coming out of the backfield with a linebacker to beat. I'd take that match up all day but the don't. Why are they limiting our biggest asset. Unless?
I agree

Re: So this Bohl ball thing is kinda workin

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:46 pm
by lakesbison
lakesbison wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2016 7:34 pm Bohl has brought ndsu Ball to WYO.

eliminate turnovers, control the clock and play defense.

period!

congrats

Bohl overall has been a success at Wyoming... this thread is correct.

Re: So this Bohl ball thing is kinda workin

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:33 pm
by calpoke25
lakesbison wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:46 pm
lakesbison wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2016 7:34 pm Bohl has brought ndsu Ball to WYO.

eliminate turnovers, control the clock and play defense.

period!

congrats

Bohl overall has been a success at Wyoming... this thread is correct.
Yep, a .444 winning percentage. Those who stay will go 6-6!

Re: So this Bohl ball thing is kinda workin

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:15 am
by OrediggerPoke
Bringing up really old threads...but this thread does bring a good question...what happened to BeaverPoke? He used to be the most active person on here. I hope he is ok.

Re: So this Bohl ball thing is kinda workin

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:51 am
by WestWYOPoke
OrediggerPoke wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:15 am Bringing up really old threads...but this thread does bring a good question...what happened to BeaverPoke? He used to be the most active person on here. I hope he is ok.
IIRC, he started to fade out once he graduated and went to Oregon State for grad school. For a few years, he was one of the most frequent posters, then he only showed up during football season, and then he was gone. Looks like he hasn't been on since December of 2017. I concur, hope all is well with BP.

Re: So this Bohl ball thing is kinda workin

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:30 am
by LanderPoke
OrediggerPoke wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:15 am Bringing up really old threads...but this thread does bring a good question...what happened to BeaverPoke? He used to be the most active person on here. I hope he is ok.
When you're only 50% Cowboy fan you don't stick around full-time

Re: So this Bohl ball thing is kinda workin

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:31 am
by LanderPoke
calpoke25 wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:33 pm
lakesbison wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:46 pm
lakesbison wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2016 7:34 pm Bohl has brought ndsu Ball to WYO.

eliminate turnovers, control the clock and play defense.

period!

congrats

Bohl overall has been a success at Wyoming... this thread is correct.
Yep, a .444 winning percentage. Those who stay will go 6-6!
It's a "what have you done for me lately" world. His trajectory looks good to me. I'm all in with Bohl!!