SoS is not irrelavant...nobody is saying that.ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:22 amIf SOS is irrelevant, then logic dictates the fastest way to the top is try to weaken SOS as much as possible. We can drastically strengthen our program by seeking the easiest possible path to Ws.307bball wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:00 pmStraw man much? Is anybody voicing this opinion?ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:13 pmFor sure. Hopefully suds, bsu, and maybe nv leave. That should really improve the WYO team. Heck, even dropping to FCS should get us a bunch of wins over a few years at least.OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:02 pm I agree with 307bball on this one. The coach has relatively little to do with strength of schedule. You can only beat who you are scheduled to play. Bohl won more games over the past few than Glenn did so Bohl gets the nod.
If you get more bottom teams and you beat more bottom teams, definitely a good indicator of how far a program has come.
Open call for anybody that has the opinion that it is a good thing for wyoming if the conference that Wyoming plays in to get weaker. What? Nobody has that opinion? Sssssshhhhhocking.
Of course, the other angle is that SOS does matter when considering where a program is at. Glenn faced 3 automatic (or nearly) conference losses + usually at least 1 OOC auto (or nearly). Bohl faces 1 conference auto loss (or nearly). If Bohl faced bsu 3 times in a season, most years that would be at minimum 2 losses and likely 3. That leaves 5 games he has a chance to win. Based on his results, we can reasonably expect 2-3 wins of 5. Good years would be 4 conference wins and bad years probably somewhere around 1; sounds familiar. Before anyone starts, Bohl's teams couldn't compete with TCU, Utah, and most byu teams; at minimum, he loses 2 of those games every year (he's only beat bsu once).
Again, I like Bohl and I don't think we can do a lot better. HOWEVER, the GREATLY weakened MWC has inflated the w/l record relative to previous coaches and he isn't nearly as handicapped with respect to budgets and facilities.
If he gets an offense that is at least middle of CFB, then I think the program will be set. Until he shows he can consistently field an effective offense (not air raid; just effective), I don't think he's demonstrated much beyond what our past coaches have. The w/l record is more a function of a weaker schedule. I'm in full support of Bohl and believe he'll get the offense fixed.
Joe Glenn's last 21 losses:
Took 35 games
Avg differential: -20.4
number of losses by 23 or more: 9
Craig Bohl's last 21 losses:
Took 45 Games
Avg differential: -11.2
number of losses by 23 or more: 3
The numbers I picked are pretty arbitrary but as long as you consider at least 10 losses, the pattern will still emerge. I don't believe that pattern is only explained by JG having to play TCU, BYU, and Utah every year. Look...these comparisons will ultimately have a big "eye test" factor in them. The only statement I would make that seems completely uncontroversial is this:
Relative to their opponents, Craig Bohl's performance is better than Joe Glenn's.
My opinion is that this is the primary reason why Bohl has been extended and why Glenn got the boot. I don't remember anybody defending Glenn after going 3-13 in conference his last two years...and for good reason. I think we do cut our coaches slack when they lose to really good teams...it's when we consistently lose to cellar-dwellers and the rams that the seat starts to heat up...as it should. If last year had not been the covid catastrophe and Bohl had won 2 or 3 conference games, I think the seat would be uncomfortably warm. As I said earlier...I'm undecided on what to think of last season.