Depth Chart released

[NebraskaCowboy]

Everybody is so negative, but do you think Slick Dave would been able to get the state government to support $20 million for a football team? Hell no. Dave was hoping for job where he could hopefully get a few good seasons and play it off into a big time job. Coach Bohl is in this for the long haul. He easily could have picked any job he wanted that didn't require a complete rebuild and continue his winning ways, but he didn't. He's going to make us a winner or go down with it. It may mean a couple of rough years, but if you don't have faith in the man then I have a problem with you. Go root for some top 5 team every year so you don't have to get your feelings hurt. So put a smile on your face, jump on the bandwagon, and most importantly, enjoy the ride.

[WestWYOPoke]

I bet Austin Fort Transfers. Any takers?

Why would he transfer?

He wants to play QB, not TE. I think he will look for a place that he can compete for a QB spot. I realize that nobody is guaranteed a spot but he has lost the chance to even compete for one in Wyoming. He is outta here. Just my opinion, and "locker room talk" ( Potato will love that one)

If he REALLY wants to play QB, I suppose he could transfer to a D2 somewhere and try. But this move to TE pretty much cements what I have been suspecting for quite a while, Fort is NOT a D1 QB. If he couldn't make the 3- (or 4-) deep at UW then he is not going to make it anywhere else in D1 as a QB. Not trying to bag on the kid, as he is a good athlete, that's why the move to TE could be great for him. So if he really wants to be a QB, South Dakota School of Mines or Black Hills might have a spot for him, but if he wants to play D1 ball, he better wrap his head around no longer being a QB.

[CowboyNV]

Everybody is so negative, but do you think Slick Dave would been able to get the state government to support $20 million for a football team? Hell no. Dave was hoping for job where he could hopefully get a few good seasons and play it off into a big time job. Coach Bohl is in this for the long haul. He easily could have picked any job he wanted that didn't require a complete rebuild and continue his winning ways, but he didn't. He's going to make us a winner or go down with it. It may mean a couple of rough years, but if you don't have faith in the man then I have a problem with you. Go root for some top 5 team every year so you don't have to get your feelings hurt. So put a smile on your face, jump on the bandwagon, and most importantly, enjoy the ride.

I've said before that I believe Bohl inherited a bigger mess than Shyatt did....in other words the football program was in worse shape than the basketball program. Several on here jumped all over me saying that there is no way the football program was in worse shape. Well, looking at the depth chart, I would say Bohl indeed did inherit a steaming pile, and he is going to need time and support to turn this thing around. I thought we would be lucky to win 3 games last year, and we won 4. I think we will be lucky to win 4 games this year (that isn't pessimism, but simply stating reality), but I'm not going to abandon this team at this stage of the rebuilding process. I may change my tune if Bohl is winning only 4 or 5 games a year in 2017 or 2018, but it is way too soon to panic or write him off. Let's give him time to work some magic. This process is going to be frustrating and painful, but it took several years to destroy this program and it's going to take a while to fix it.

[Slow Hand]

Everybody is so negative, but do you think Slick Dave would been able to get the state government to support $20 million for a football team? Hell no. Dave was hoping for job where he could hopefully get a few good seasons and play it off into a big time job. Coach Bohl is in this for the long haul. He easily could have picked any job he wanted that didn't require a complete rebuild and continue his winning ways, but he didn't. He's going to make us a winner or go down with it. It may mean a couple of rough years, but if you don't have faith in the man then I have a problem with you. Go root for some top 5 team every year so you don't have to get your feelings hurt. So put a smile on your face, jump on the bandwagon, and most importantly, enjoy the ride.

I don' think anyone is blaming Bohl, or even saying that he is a bad person or coach. Change is the nature at Wyoming and with change comes growing pains. We all agree that DC was not the answer and Bohl may not be either. But with coaching changes comes personal changes. At least in this thread I think that is the focus. My point about Fort and a couple others is that they are going to go where they have e a chance to play. The one thing about Bohl is that he will not blow smoke up your ass. He will tell you if he thinks you will play and if not he will help you get somewhere that you can.

Even if Bohl can't get it done he is one hell of a politician. He has procured for the university of Wyoming millions of dollars and lobbied for big time change that will help bring us up to par with the rest of the country. In a few years our facilities will be second to none. Hopefully that will help bring in athletes that can compete at the level we all hope for.

[Slow Hand]

I bet Austin Fort Transfers. Any takers?

Why would he transfer?

He wants to play QB, not TE. I think he will look for a place that he can compete for a QB spot. I realize that nobody is guaranteed a spot but he has lost the chance to even compete for one in Wyoming. He is outta here. Just my opinion, and "locker room talk" ( Potato will love that one)

If he's so opposed to the move, why not just quit/transfer already? Why make a position change for spring ball just so that he can transfer over the summer and move back to QB? Makes no sense.

Did you look at the depth chart? He is at the "four" spot at the TE position. I think the likely hood of him playing there is about the same as him playing at QB. I can't answer why he wouldn't transfer right now. Perhaps he doesn't want to loose his credits or scholarship money, or maybe because this move is so new and somewhat unexpected to him he hasn't thought it all the way through. I can't be sure but up until now I think all of his spring reps have been at QB. so the move has to be new to him.

[JimmyDimes]

I bet Austin Fort Transfers. Any takers?

Why would he transfer?

He wants to play QB, not TE. I think he will look for a place that he can compete for a QB spot. I realize that nobody is guaranteed a spot but he has lost the chance to even compete for one in Wyoming. He is outta here. Just my opinion, and "locker room talk" ( Potato will love that one)

If he's so opposed to the move, why not just quit/transfer already? Why make a position change for spring ball just so that he can transfer over the summer and move back to QB? Makes no sense.

Did you look at the depth chart? He is at the "four" spot at the TE position. I think the likely hood of him playing there is about the same as him playing at QB. I can't answer why he wouldn't transfer right now. Perhaps he doesn't want to loose his credits or scholarship money, or maybe because this move is so new and somewhat unexpected to him he hasn't thought it all the way through. I can't be sure but up until now I think all of his spring reps have been at QB. so the move has to be new to him.

Last year we played at least 3 TE's on a regular basis (Krill, Hollister, and Nzoecha), but only one QB played the entire year (Thornton did play a series or two when Colby got hurt).

[Slow Hand]

I bet Austin Fort Transfers. Any takers?

Why would he transfer?

He wants to play QB, not TE. I think he will look for a place that he can compete for a QB spot. I realize that nobody is guaranteed a spot but he has lost the chance to even compete for one in Wyoming. He is outta here. Just my opinion, and "locker room talk" ( Potato will love that one)

If he's so opposed to the move, why not just quit/transfer already? Why make a position change for spring ball just so that he can transfer over the summer and move back to QB? Makes no sense.

Did you look at the depth chart? He is at the "four" spot at the TE position. I think the likely hood of him playing there is about the same as him playing at QB. I can't answer why he wouldn't transfer right now. Perhaps he doesn't want to loose his credits or scholarship money, or maybe because this move is so new and somewhat unexpected to him he hasn't thought it all the way through. I can't be sure but up until now I think all of his spring reps have been at QB. so the move has to be new to him.

Last year we played at least 3 TE's on a regular basis (Krill, Hollister, and Nzoecha), but only one QB played the entire year (Thornton did play a series or two when Colby got hurt).

As did Sam. I thought he got a few series as well.

[kansasCowboy]

Yep, and some people think we can beat Wazzu still. Lol.

Not impossible. Wazzu got caught overlooking a bad Nevada team last season. But I do get your point BP....the more I learn, the more I think there are 0 gimmes on the schedule next season.

After looking at that depth chart I am thinking 3 wins at tops.

And I have a feeling Mike Leach's backups will score as much as their starters.
70-0

Bet? Wyoming will win more than 3....hell, I'll give you 5 games. And Mike Leach's 3 win team won't score 70 on us. I'll give you 40.

If I win, you take your game to the Oregon State board. Deal?

The bet is a joke...but damn I can't stand all the negative poop on this board.

There are a lot of people on this board who claim to be Wyoming fans, but who would love to see Coach Bohl fail so they could say "see, I told you".

At the end of the day, every pessimistic poster is in far more in touch with the reality of the Wyoming football program than the optimistic ones, and at the same time, would absolutely love to have the JimmyDimes and Kansas Cowboys of the board say "I told you so" to the pessimistic posters such as myself.

I would rather Wyoming be fighting Boise for New Years 6 Bowl Games and have all the sunshine pumpers tell me how wrong I am about Bohl and winning at Wyoming rather than be right about Wyo football.

Dude, I would even take Wyo fighting for the Potato, NM, Poinsettia, and new Tuscon Bowl rather than be right about where I think Wyoming football is. I would gladly take it.

I like how I get thrown in on this...

Yet, very being the optimist that I am, I'm pretty sure that I questioned Bohls hiring, I predicted 0 to 4 wins for his first season. I complimented progress that I've seen, and I'm sure if you look back at other posts about this upcoming year I initially had us at 4-8 or 5-7...

How am I the eternal optimist?

The answer, is I'm not. The difference is I keep my dignity and level of respect as positive because I just don't spout off and bitch about every little thing.

And the only reason I'm considered a "Sunshine Pumper" is because when half the board has lost their dignity. I'm level headed enough to stay right where I was to begin with and generally try to defend players from you all or understand coaching decisions and try to explain them to you. But because I never lower myself to your levels I'm the Sunshine Pumping Eternal Optimist.

Thank you. I feel better. I feel happy. I feel chipper. I feel bright. I feel enlightened. Yep, it's the pumper in me.

[jarhead]

Yep, and some people think we can beat Wazzu still. Lol.

Not impossible. Wazzu got caught overlooking a bad Nevada team last season. But I do get your point BP....the more I learn, the more I think there are 0 gimmes on the schedule next season.

After looking at that depth chart I am thinking 3 wins at tops.

And I have a feeling Mike Leach's backups will score as much as their starters.
70-0

Bet? Wyoming will win more than 3....hell, I'll give you 5 games. And Mike Leach's 3 win team won't score 70 on us. I'll give you 40.

If I win, you take your game to the Oregon State board. Deal?

It is probably because you are from Rock Springs and played for another coach by the name of Christensen! LOL.

The bet is a joke...but damn I can't stand all the negative poop on this board.

There are a lot of people on this board who claim to be Wyoming fans, but who would love to see Coach Bohl fail so they could say "see, I told you".

At the end of the day, every pessimistic poster is in far more in touch with the reality of the Wyoming football program than the optimistic ones, and at the same time, would absolutely love to have the JimmyDimes and Kansas Cowboys of the board say "I told you so" to the pessimistic posters such as myself.

I would rather Wyoming be fighting Boise for New Years 6 Bowl Games and have all the sunshine pumpers tell me how wrong I am about Bohl and winning at Wyoming rather than be right about Wyo football.

Dude, I would even take Wyo fighting for the Potato, NM, Poinsettia, and new Tuscon Bowl rather than be right about where I think Wyoming football is. I would gladly take it.

I like how I get thrown in on this...

Yet, very being the optimist that I am, I'm pretty sure that I questioned Bohls hiring, I predicted 0 to 4 wins for his first season. I complimented progress that I've seen, and I'm sure if you look back at other posts about this upcoming year I initially had us at 4-8 or 5-7...

How am I the eternal optimist?

The answer, is I'm not. The difference is I keep my dignity and level of respect as positive because I just don't spout off and bitch about every little thing.

And the only reason I'm considered a "Sunshine Pumper" is because when half the board has lost their dignity. I'm level headed enough to stay right where I was to begin with and generally try to defend players from you all or understand coaching decisions and try to explain them to you. But because I never lower myself to your levels I'm the Sunshine Pumping Eternal Optimist.

Thank you. I feel better. I feel happy. I feel chipper. I feel bright. I feel enlightened. Yep, it's the pumper in me.

[jarhead]

Yep, and some people think we can beat Wazzu still. Lol.

Not impossible. Wazzu got caught overlooking a bad Nevada team last season. But I do get your point BP....the more I learn, the more I think there are 0 gimmes on the schedule next season.

After looking at that depth chart I am thinking 3 wins at tops.

And I have a feeling Mike Leach's backups will score as much as their starters.
70-0

Bet? Wyoming will win more than 3....hell, I'll give you 5 games. And Mike Leach's 3 win team won't score 70 on us. I'll give you 40.

If I win, you take your game to the Oregon State board. Deal?

It is probably because you are from Rock Springs and played for another coach by the name of Christensen! LOL.

The bet is a joke...but damn I can't stand all the negative poop on this board.

There are a lot of people on this board who claim to be Wyoming fans, but who would love to see Coach Bohl fail so they could say "see, I told you".

At the end of the day, every pessimistic poster is in far more in touch with the reality of the Wyoming football program than the optimistic ones, and at the same time, would absolutely love to have the JimmyDimes and Kansas Cowboys of the board say "I told you so" to the pessimistic posters such as myself.

I would rather Wyoming be fighting Boise for New Years 6 Bowl Games and have all the sunshine pumpers tell me how wrong I am about Bohl and winning at Wyoming rather than be right about Wyo football.

Dude, I would even take Wyo fighting for the Potato, NM, Poinsettia, and new Tuscon Bowl rather than be right about where I think Wyoming football is. I would gladly take it.

I like how I get thrown in on this...

Yet, very being the optimist that I am, I'm pretty sure that I questioned Bohls hiring, I predicted 0 to 4 wins for his first season. I complimented progress that I've seen, and I'm sure if you look back at other posts about this upcoming year I initially had us at 4-8 or 5-7...

How am I the eternal optimist?

The answer, is I'm not. The difference is I keep my dignity and level of respect as positive because I just don't spout off and bitch about every little thing.

And the only reason I'm considered a "Sunshine Pumper" is because when half the board has lost their dignity. I'm level headed enough to stay right where I was to begin with and generally try to defend players from you all or understand coaching decisions and try to explain them to you. But because I never lower myself to your levels I'm the Sunshine Pumping Eternal Optimist.

Thank you. I feel better. I feel happy. I feel chipper. I feel bright. I feel enlightened. Yep, it's the pumper in me.

It is probably because you are from Rock Springs and you played for another coach named Christensen! LOL

[jarhead]

Please know Kansas, that my last post was a joke. I like Jamie and think he was an incredible coach! no one ever figured out how to defend his option game.

[J-Rod]

Yeah BP, to kansas' credit, he was stating that Wyoming was in for a long transition period back when Bohl was hired and some fans had their heads in the clouds expecting 8+ wins right off the bat. Not everyone has set the bar high....I think most know that Bohl was hired with a purpose. His vision is respected, but might not be realized until 2017, 2018, maybe even longer. Bohl didn't start winning at an elite FCS level until year #8 in Fargo. Jerry Moore from App State, who also has 3-peat national championships to his name, needed 15+ years! Even in basketball...Steve Fisher took what, 6-8 years to get SDSU to where he wanted them to be? Shyatt 4? And it's easier to win on the hardwood than on the gridiron.

This is a process. Bohl is committed to UW, and UW is committed to Bohl. But even the neutral media like Bill Connelly see it: patience is required.

[NowherePoke]

Everybody is so negative, but do you think Slick Dave would been able to get the state government to support $20 million for a football team? Hell no. Dave was hoping for job where he could hopefully get a few good seasons and play it off into a big time job. Coach Bohl is in this for the long haul. He easily could have picked any job he wanted that didn't require a complete rebuild and continue his winning ways, but he didn't. He's going to make us a winner or go down with it. It may mean a couple of rough years, but if you don't have faith in the man then I have a problem with you. Go root for some top 5 team every year so you don't have to get your feelings hurt. So put a smile on your face, jump on the bandwagon, and most importantly, enjoy the ride.

I've said before that I believe Bohl inherited a bigger mess than Shyatt did....in other words the football program was in worse shape than the basketball program. Several on here jumped all over me saying that there is no way the football program was in worse shape. Well, looking at the depth chart, I would say Bohl indeed did inherit a steaming pile, and he is going to need time and support to turn this thing around. I thought we would be lucky to win 3 games last year, and we won 4. I think we will be lucky to win 4 games this year (that isn't pessimism, but simply stating reality), but I'm not going to abandon this team at this stage of the rebuilding process. I may change my tune if Bohl is winning only 4 or 5 games a year in 2017 or 2018, but it is way too soon to panic or write him off. Let's give him time to work some magic. This process is going to be frustrating and painful, but it took several years to destroy this program and it's going to take a while to fix it.

Agreed 100%. I made the point on multiple occassions before last year that Bohl was taking over a huge rebuilding job. DC's last year might have been 5-7, but that was very misleading. It was against the weakest SOS we have every played (at least going back to the late 90's which is far back as I could find SOS statistics). If you looked at ranking systems that factored in SOS, MOV, etc. like Sagarin you would see that DC's last team was very close to Vic's 2-win teams in 01 and 02 in terms of futility (actually worse by some rankings).

Combine that fact with losing the primary reason for whatever success there was in 2013 (Smith) and trying to adjust to a new style and it had the makings of a disaster.

I think Bohl is doing a good job, but this is a long term rebuild. The only expectation I have for the program over the next two years is not limit the blowout losses. No more 63-14 type beatdowns. We may not have the talent to win a lot of games just yet, but there is no reason we can't exhibit the urgency and determination to compete for 4 quarters and look like we belong on the field.

[ragtimejoe1]

If we aren't at least competitive in this MWC, then I'll be really disappointed. I'm not saying we have a winning record (anywhere between 2 and 8 wins won't surprise me), but we better damn sure be in the game.

I get that this is a rebuild, but so is much of the MWC. I do not expect other MWC programs to rebuild faster than us.

I guess I don't get it. If we aren't pretty damn competitive this year and easily a bowl team next year, we are doing it wrong. Patience hell. I would agree 100% with patience if we had Utah, BYU, TCU, BSU, and then some solid teams like an SDSU and such. We don't. We have BSU and then ummm, not much. It sure as hell better not take 6 years to be competitive in this conference.

[BeaverPoke]

Yep, and some people think we can beat Wazzu still. Lol.

Not impossible. Wazzu got caught overlooking a bad Nevada team last season. But I do get your point BP....the more I learn, the more I think there are 0 gimmes on the schedule next season.

After looking at that depth chart I am thinking 3 wins at tops.

And I have a feeling Mike Leach's backups will score as much as their starters.
70-0

Bet? Wyoming will win more than 3....hell, I'll give you 5 games. And Mike Leach's 3 win team won't score 70 on us. I'll give you 40.

If I win, you take your game to the Oregon State board. Deal?

The bet is a joke...but damn I can't stand all the negative poop on this board.

There are a lot of people on this board who claim to be Wyoming fans, but who would love to see Coach Bohl fail so they could say "see, I told you".

At the end of the day, every pessimistic poster is in far more in touch with the reality of the Wyoming football program than the optimistic ones, and at the same time, would absolutely love to have the JimmyDimes and Kansas Cowboys of the board say "I told you so" to the pessimistic posters such as myself.

I would rather Wyoming be fighting Boise for New Years 6 Bowl Games and have all the sunshine pumpers tell me how wrong I am about Bohl and winning at Wyoming rather than be right about Wyo football.

Dude, I would even take Wyo fighting for the Potato, NM, Poinsettia, and new Tuscon Bowl rather than be right about where I think Wyoming football is. I would gladly take it.

I like how I get thrown in on this...

Yet, very being the optimist that I am, I'm pretty sure that I questioned Bohls hiring, I predicted 0 to 4 wins for his first season. I complimented progress that I've seen, and I'm sure if you look back at other posts about this upcoming year I initially had us at 4-8 or 5-7...

How am I the eternal optimist?

The answer, is I'm not. The difference is I keep my dignity and level of respect as positive because I just don't spout off and bitch about every little thing.

And the only reason I'm considered a "Sunshine Pumper" is because when half the board has lost their dignity. I'm level headed enough to stay right where I was to begin with and generally try to defend players from you all or understand coaching decisions and try to explain them to you. But because I never lower myself to your levels I'm the Sunshine Pumping Eternal Optimist.

Thank you. I feel better. I feel happy. I feel chipper. I feel bright. I feel enlightened. Yep, it's the pumper in me.

Kansas, like I said, I would really love for you to be able to say "I told you so" at the end of the season.
And no I don't mean about how the team is competing, or how you perceive their toughness compared to the DC regime. I am talking about Wyoming winning bowl games. I am talking Wyoming being in or on the verge of the Top 25.
I am talking about Wyoming being respected by outsiders. When people see Wyoming on the schedule saying "Oh poop" instead of "Hell yeah, chalk up an easy W".

If we get there under Bohl, I would LOVE for you to say I told you so. Because it would mean I am absolutely wrong.

And btw, my main issue isn't with Bohl. It's with the BOT, the athletic department, and the athletic director. I do think Bohl could win at the right place, with the right bosses. I think he is a great X's and O's coach and could squeeze a little bit more out of the players than most coaches.

I just don't see Bohl winning at Wyoming.

[seattlecowboy]

I wouldn't even be looking or worrying about the depth chart right now. Check it out when fall camp is halfway done and then everyone can either get excited or worry. No point in even checking it out right now when you have guys out for various reasons and more players coming in for fall camp. Just my thoughts on it.

[WYCowboy]

I bet Austin Fort Transfers. Any takers?

Why would he transfer?

He wants to play QB, not TE. I think he will look for a place that he can compete for a QB spot. I realize that nobody is guaranteed a spot but he has lost the chance to even compete for one in Wyoming. He is outta here. Just my opinion, and "locker room talk" ( Potato will love that one)

If he's so opposed to the move, why not just quit/transfer already? Why make a position change for spring ball just so that he can transfer over the summer and move back to QB? Makes no sense.

Did you look at the depth chart? He is at the "four" spot at the TE position. I think the likely hood of him playing there is about the same as him playing at QB. I can't answer why he wouldn't transfer right now. Perhaps he doesn't want to loose his credits or scholarship money, or maybe because this move is so new and somewhat unexpected to him he hasn't thought it all the way through. I can't be sure but up until now I think all of his spring reps have been at QB. so the move has to be new to him.

I wonder why - since he has only been listed at the TE position for less than a week.

[ragtimejoe1]

I am talking about Wyoming winning bowl games. I am talking Wyoming being in or on the verge of the Top 25.
I am talking about Wyoming being respected by outsiders. When people see Wyoming on the schedule saying "Oh poop" instead of "Hell yeah, chalk up an easy W".

Doing this will take time under the best case scenario. I'm like you in that I think our AD is more of an anchor to Bohl, but I do believe Bohl is going to do this DESPITE our AD.

Agreed that it will take time to get to your criteria.

Competing in the MWC? If we aren't competing in the MWC by next year, then we should evaluate the importance of football to WYO. I'm sorry, but that is reality. This conference is so bad that it shouldn't take more than 3 years of a concerted effort to climb the ranks.

[J-Rod]

Very few MW programs have managed to sustain high-level success. Hawaii reached a BCS bowl, near Top 25 status at times during the 2006-2011 era, and has since fallen off. Nevada did the same from 2008-2012...again, they have since fallen off. Fresno had a brief era of dominance, largely due to Derek Carr, and is not facing a very rough off-season thanks to several key players voluntarily leaving. Colorado State briefly won big, but will come crashing down soon. All these teams had one thing in common: they had GREAT QBs (Brennan, Kaepernick Carr, Grayson). That's more luck than anything else really.

Anyway, I'm just making the point that it isn't like MW programs, or non-P5 schools in general, regularly exist in the Top 25. Even the best non-Boise non-P5 schools go up and down, up and down. So even in the best case scenario, I don't see Wyoming suddenly becoming a mainstay at the elite level. These are not good times for schools not in power conferences.

I'm just saying. I'd lower the bar if that is your expectation.

[LanderPoke]

Well, Beaver, if you can't get your hopes up for our program with Bohl (can't think of anyone better for this job) at the helm and a 45 million investment then I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you should concentrate your football fan energies on the Beavers (wtf?) and spare us the gloom.