fromolwyoming wrote: Poke-proud wrote: McPeachy wrote: WestWYOPoke wrote:
Further, will the excuse of "cleaning up a previous administrations sh#t[#]" be afforded Trump & his cabinet, when looking at his scope of work, as to why he may / may not be effective in office (if that can even be measured any longer)? You know...he is following 8 years of Obama, he can't possibly fix "the mess" in 4 years, right? Oh my. LOL!
Unemployment at its lowest rate in decades, stock market at an all-time high, gasoline cheaper than it was for the last 10 years, no true ongoing wars (I.E. excessive numbers of troops on the ground), GDP growth significantly increased...yeah, he really burned this country to the ground.
And before you throw out the whole US debt argument, he didn't increase it (as a percentage) nearly as much as Bush 2 did.
In all seriousness, I am not a huge fan of Obamacare either, it doesn't affect me much, but there are others that it hurts, so if some changes can occur I'm all for it as I think everyone needs access to health insurance. I personally am of the mind that insurance companies should not be allowed to turn a profit.
And no, I am not a Democrat
That's what I am talking about. Great response, and post.
Although I would counter by saying right off the top of my head, that during the Obama tenure the USA also suffered through some of the highest gas prices ever on record.
I was not / am not a fan of either candidate (and can't believe a country of more than 300 million people had these 2 choices)...and although a republican, have voted democrat numerous times (especially when it came to some past Wyoming governors).
It's really not too difficult to figure out. We are tired of the establishment in Washington. Trump brings a refreshing change when he says he's going to drain the swamp. Whether he does remains to be seen, but personally Im tired of "Mr Smith going to Washington" and doing nothing. Here's a question, other than ego, why does Trump need the job - he makes more in a few weeks than what the job will pay, he doesn't need Air Force one - he has a jet, he has nice homes in many places so it isn't living in the White House, and he has access to many nice golf courses - he owns them. Could it be that he really believes he can make America great again!!!
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Your tired of the "establishment" and the guy you elected brings on some of the most establishment people in the GOP he can.
"Drain the swamp" when he''s helped fill it up. He's paid bribes, not paid anything in Federal Taxes in 20 years, businesses that he hired, he refused to pay them their dues and threatened to tie them up in court, and cost thousands of people their jobs. And that's not even getting into how he drove his (his father's) company into bankruptcy, 6 separate times.
As for your last part, that's actually pretty easy. It's to sell his brand. He's been doing that schtick since at least the 90s. This time, he just took it to politics. Commercials, guest appearances, The Apprentice, etc, was all to sell his brand. Even then, he could be doing it for what he perceives as a step up in power. And considering his background...
And already, he's backpedaling on several of the things people voted him in for. He's not gonna bury Obamacare, he's now iffy on prosecuting Clinton, and rather than unite people, he's brought in one of the most divisive people he could for his inner circle, short of David Duke himself.
So, yeah. There are plenty of issues with Trump, past and present. And that's not even touching on his surprise that minorities would feel threatened by the rhetoric he used since day 1.
So many thing wrong with your post.
To start he won - you lose. Cry or get over it.
I'll start with the simple ones - your gal, Hillary, George Soros puppet, lying corrupt 30 year "established" person. You go with that.
It would be a bit naive to believe anyone would go into a presidency and not have some people that understand the establishment. That said, which office was it Reince Preibus held, hmmmm was it in Congress or the Senate. Maybe you can answer that.
Again, you can't get much more establishment than 30 years of ole Hillbilly. How much would you trust her to have your back in Benghazi? But, "what difference does it make, there are 4 dead Americans"?
On to Trumps taxes. So do you take advantage of tax deductions available to you? Silly question, no why would you - that would be hypocritical, now wouldn't it. Did he do anything illegal. Wasn't it the law that he and any other business uses? Even George Soros someone you probably admire. Additionally, isn't any good business going to limit/reduce any cost they would pay, even tax? Oh forgot, except for yours - you would find ways to pay more I suppose. Your argument there is naive.
Here's the real tale, again defend this;
62.8%: Labor Force Participation Has Hovered Near 37-Year low,
63.7 Homeownership rate lowest in 25 years
13 million more Americans have become dependent on food stamps, with the numbers now hitting a record 47 million — about a third more than when he was sworn in. In 2007, there were 26 million recipients,
Unemployment rate of over 10% (double that for blacks under Obama) Unemployment rate for black teens is 3X worse at 31.5%,
The poverty rate for blacks increased from 12 percent in 2008 to 16.1 percent,
Median income down 3.6 percent for white households and fell 10.9 percent for black households,
Obamacare is a mess with many insurance companies losing money and dropping participation in the program
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