So you good with that WestWyo? WA can fire Rolo and TX can do what they want or are you a hypocrite?ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:42 pmSure, as I stated above. Just like TX and their abortion billWestWYOPoke wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:31 pmStates' rights... right?ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:14 pmDid you read the Washington mandate? There was no testing option.LawPoke wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:12 pm Now to Biden's "mandate" - it hasn't been released yet, but will likely say that you either (1) get vaxxed; OR (2) you get tested regularly. Hardly a mandate if you can opt for another path. And if a business wants to mandate it, it's their choice. I remember a day when the GOP believed in free enterprise and the invisible hand of the market. Even so, I actually agree that government shouldn't say either way: they should let the individual business decide what it wants to do to mitigate business risk.
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Haha, I was pointing out the hypocrisy of the other post, but nice attempt to flip it.ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:00 pmSo you good with that WestWyo? WA can fire Rolo and TX can do what they want or are you a hypocrite?ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:42 pmSure, as I stated above. Just like TX and their abortion billWestWYOPoke wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:31 pmStates' rights... right?ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:14 pmDid you read the Washington mandate? There was no testing option.LawPoke wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:12 pm Now to Biden's "mandate" - it hasn't been released yet, but will likely say that you either (1) get vaxxed; OR (2) you get tested regularly. Hardly a mandate if you can opt for another path. And if a business wants to mandate it, it's their choice. I remember a day when the GOP believed in free enterprise and the invisible hand of the market. Even so, I actually agree that government shouldn't say either way: they should let the individual business decide what it wants to do to mitigate business risk.
Still is a difference... Texas bill = straight up telling every female citizen what they can't do with their body. Washington = giving a small subset of the population a choice between vaccination (a shot with low to zero downside) or finding a non-government job.
Having said that, I don't agree with the Washington mandate. They should have allowed weekly testing as a third option.
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Does anyone know if the Washington mandate went through the legislature of did the crazy c-word just snap her fingers and make it so?
The Texas abortion bill at least went through some kind is legislative process but yeah murdering babies is the same thing as “women can’t do what they want with their bodies”. If we’re going that route, I believe men should be able to opt out of fatherhood and not have any financial liabilities if they choose no and the woman decides to keep the baby. We’ve decide it’s the fathers baby if she keeps it, but if she doesn’t he has no say and she can just murder his child. It’s insane. I definitely don’t think we can force a woman to have a child in this circumstance but you also shouldn’t be able to force fatherhood on a man. That’s the fix.
The Texas abortion bill at least went through some kind is legislative process but yeah murdering babies is the same thing as “women can’t do what they want with their bodies”. If we’re going that route, I believe men should be able to opt out of fatherhood and not have any financial liabilities if they choose no and the woman decides to keep the baby. We’ve decide it’s the fathers baby if she keeps it, but if she doesn’t he has no say and she can just murder his child. It’s insane. I definitely don’t think we can force a woman to have a child in this circumstance but you also shouldn’t be able to force fatherhood on a man. That’s the fix.
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Read post above... no hypocrisy. I said if WA wants a totalitarian regime, that's their right. Mid-terms are going to be interesting.WestWYOPoke wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:51 pmHaha, I was pointing out the hypocrisy of the other post, but nice attempt to flip it.ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:00 pmSo you good with that WestWyo? WA can fire Rolo and TX can do what they want or are you a hypocrite?ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:42 pmSure, as I stated above. Just like TX and their abortion billWestWYOPoke wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:31 pmStates' rights... right?ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:14 pmDid you read the Washington mandate? There was no testing option.LawPoke wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:12 pm Now to Biden's "mandate" - it hasn't been released yet, but will likely say that you either (1) get vaxxed; OR (2) you get tested regularly. Hardly a mandate if you can opt for another path. And if a business wants to mandate it, it's their choice. I remember a day when the GOP believed in free enterprise and the invisible hand of the market. Even so, I actually agree that government shouldn't say either way: they should let the individual business decide what it wants to do to mitigate business risk.
Still is a difference... Texas bill = straight up telling every female citizen what they can't do with their body. Washington = giving a small subset of the population a choice between vaccination (a shot with low to zero downside) or finding a non-government job.
Having said that, I don't agree with the Washington mandate. They should have allowed weekly testing as a third option.
Of course you see a difference but your hypocrisy knows no bounds. My body, my choice, right? States rights, right? Don't like it? Just move away from TX, right?
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Easy there Cowduck, don't want to be labeled an Anti-American with that talk
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Yeah, the rights of the individual are secondary to what a few people say is best for the collective. It’s like neither of you have even looked at the constitution. You two are dangerous.WestWYOPoke wrote: ↑Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:21 pmEasy there Cowduck, don't want to be labeled an Anti-American with that talk
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Anyone who would use force to subvert my personal liberty or encourage the use of force to subvert my personal liberty is dangerous and is my enemy. I do not consider them fellow Americans, therefore I would not and will not sacrifice for those people. And before you lose it, just know that you’re the extremist. People trying to impose their will on others are the extremists, not the people trying to protect liberty.
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Then I guess the majority of the country are extremists, because - sorry to break it to you - you're in the minority on this one.laxwyo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:16 amYeah, the rights of the individual are secondary to what a few people say is best for the collective. It’s like neither of you have even looked at the constitution. You two are dangerous.WestWYOPoke wrote: ↑Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:21 pmEasy there Cowduck, don't want to be labeled an Anti-American with that talk
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Anyone who would use force to subvert my personal liberty or encourage the use of force to subvert my personal liberty is dangerous and is my enemy. I do not consider them fellow Americans, therefore I would not and will not sacrifice for those people. And before you lose it, just know that you’re the extremist. People trying to impose their will on others are the extremists, not the people trying to protect liberty.
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This is the last I'll post on this thread. My apologies to all that are here to talk UW football. IMO this football (and basketball) forum should be a politics-free space. I'm just as guilty as anyone else on this. I'll keep any political comments to the Hole in the Wall board as that is much easier to avoid for those that are here to talk sports. I hope others will do the same.
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That's what is most concerning, he is the minority. Some of you are are going to keep trusting the government until your pronouns are was/were.WestWYOPoke wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:50 amThen I guess the majority of the country are extremists, because - sorry to break it to you - you're in the minority on this one.laxwyo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:16 amYeah, the rights of the individual are secondary to what a few people say is best for the collective. It’s like neither of you have even looked at the constitution. You two are dangerous.WestWYOPoke wrote: ↑Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:21 pmEasy there Cowduck, don't want to be labeled an Anti-American with that talk
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Anyone who would use force to subvert my personal liberty or encourage the use of force to subvert my personal liberty is dangerous and is my enemy. I do not consider them fellow Americans, therefore I would not and will not sacrifice for those people. And before you lose it, just know that you’re the extremist. People trying to impose their will on others are the extremists, not the people trying to protect liberty.
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Anyone who would use force to subvert my personal liberty or encourage the use of force to subvert my personal liberty is dangerous and is my enemy. I do not consider them fellow Americans, therefore I would not and will not sacrifice for those people. And before you lose it, just know that you’re the extremist. People trying to impose their will on others are the extremists, not the people trying to protect liberty.
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If he lives in western Wyoming he’s definitely in a tiny minority. Based on Biden’s approval he’s also in the minority. If he lives anywhere but a large city, he’s in the minority.Cornpoke wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:47 amThat's what is most concerning, he is the minority. Some of you are are going to keep trusting the government until your pronouns are was/were.WestWYOPoke wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:50 amThen I guess the majority of the country are extremists, because - sorry to break it to you - you're in the minority on this one.laxwyo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:16 amYeah, the rights of the individual are secondary to what a few people say is best for the collective. It’s like neither of you have even looked at the constitution. You two are dangerous.WestWYOPoke wrote: ↑Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:21 pmEasy there Cowduck, don't want to be labeled an Anti-American with that talk
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Anyone who would use force to subvert my personal liberty or encourage the use of force to subvert my personal liberty is dangerous and is my enemy. I do not consider them fellow Americans, therefore I would not and will not sacrifice for those people. And before you lose it, just know that you’re the extremist. People trying to impose their will on others are the extremists, not the people trying to protect liberty.
There was a time where the thought of a income tax was so extreme, they amended the constitution. Now the president makes a speech and people can get forced medical treatment. This country needs a drastic change in direction and philosophy. It starts with calling out the real extremists. f-word them.
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