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In regards to Klieman probably taking the K-State job, I do not like reading this..

A name to look for Klieman to bring with him, should he get the job, would be Wyoming defensive coordinator Scottie Hazelton. The two briefly overlapped on Craig Bohl’s NDSU stuff, and Hazelton eventually joined Bohl in Laramie.

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I do not like this, either. Stay away from Scottie. UW loves you , Scottie!
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Klieman to kstate is done. Just thought of something... What if ndsu hires vigen as his replacement? I know it won't happen, but I'm sure not many on this board would be too upset with his departure.
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303cowboy wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:44 pm Klieman to kstate is done. Just thought of something... What if ndsu hires vigen as his replacement? I know it won't happen, but I'm sure not many on this board would be too upset with his departure.
I looked at NDSU message board and his named was mentioned as a replacement but the problem is he makes more as the OC at Wyoming I believe than NDSU can pay him as head coach. Or it's pretty comparable.
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seattlecowboy wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:08 pm
303cowboy wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:44 pm Klieman to kstate is done. Just thought of something... What if ndsu hires vigen as his replacement? I know it won't happen, but I'm sure not many on this board would be too upset with his departure.
I looked at NDSU message board and his named was mentioned as a replacement but the problem is he makes more as the OC at Wyoming I believe than NDSU can pay him as head coach. Or it's pretty comparable.
Klieman’s base salary at NDSU was $425,000 which is more than Hazelton and Vigen make at Wyoming. With incentives and football camps, Klieman exceeded $500,000.

I could see Hazelton as a very real candidate for the NDSU job (Vigen not likely).
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OrediggerPoke wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:46 pm
seattlecowboy wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:08 pm
303cowboy wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:44 pm Klieman to kstate is done. Just thought of something... What if ndsu hires vigen as his replacement? I know it won't happen, but I'm sure not many on this board would be too upset with his departure.
I looked at NDSU message board and his named was mentioned as a replacement but the problem is he makes more as the OC at Wyoming I believe than NDSU can pay him as head coach. Or it's pretty comparable.
Klieman’s base salary at NDSU was $425,000 which is more than Hazelton and Vigen make at Wyoming. With incentives and football camps, Klieman exceeded $500,000.

I could see Hazelton as a very real candidate for the NDSU job (Vigen not likely).
Kliemans base salary his first year was $350k which would be more in line with what they would pay Vigen starting out. I wouldn't think he would get $425k starting out until he proves he can win like Klieman did.

With the incentives he could possibly make more if he could hit them, but is that enough for him to take the head coaching job? Maybe , maybe not.
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If Vigen isn't a leading candidate, that says something. Hope we don't lose Haze to either situation.
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Hazelton could leave tomorrow and make a lot more as a D coordinator at a larger school than he would as the head guy at NDSU. I guess the real question is what does he want more right now, money or a head coach job.
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It was pretty funny to see K-state fans having a melt down online last night about hiring Klieman. Sounds like the fanbase is not happy. I think it is a great hire. Not sure who they thought they should have.

As far as Scottie goes. Not sure why Klieman wouldn't take his own D coordinator from NDSU unless he is in the running to replace him at NDSU. I think Vigen could make a decent HC. It allows someone else to call the plays on gameday.
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It would be great if we somehow keep Hazelton and Vigen gets the NDSU job. That would be an awesome Christmas present.
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Pokes fan 24-7 wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:19 am It would be great if we somehow keep Hazelton and Vigen gets the NDSU job. That would be an awesome Christmas present.
This +1000

I have always been the "careful what you wish for" kind, but in this circumstance, I wish Vigen to be HC at whatever that school is called in ND, and for Greg Brandon to return to UW as OC.

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Please let Vigen return to that craphole, ND.
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TSpoke wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:14 am It was pretty funny to see K-state fans having a melt down online last night about hiring Klieman. Sounds like the fanbase is not happy. I think it is a great hire. Not sure who they thought they should have.

As far as Scottie goes. Not sure why Klieman wouldn't take his own D coordinator from NDSU unless he is in the running to replace him at NDSU. I think Vigen could make a decent HC. It allows someone else to call the plays on gameday.
I think part of the contract was that with Klieman hired at K-St. he would retain all of Snyders assistants.

I should edit this and say I don't know if this is true or not and if he is supposed to keep Snyders assistants but I read it in a couple of places so thought their might be something to it.
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LanderPoke wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:55 pm I do not like this, either. Stay away from Scottie. UW loves you , Scottie!
Please say it isn't so Scottie, please stay!!
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seattlecowboy wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:41 pm
TSpoke wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:14 am It was pretty funny to see K-state fans having a melt down online last night about hiring Klieman. Sounds like the fanbase is not happy. I think it is a great hire. Not sure who they thought they should have.

As far as Scottie goes. Not sure why Klieman wouldn't take his own D coordinator from NDSU unless he is in the running to replace him at NDSU. I think Vigen could make a decent HC. It allows someone else to call the plays on gameday.
I think part of the contract was that with Klieman hired at K-St. he would retain all of Snyders assistants.

I should edit this and say I don't know if this is true or not and if he is supposed to keep Snyders assistants but I read it in a couple of places so thought their might be something to it.
No decent head coach would agree to that. That would effectively neuter the new head coach and prevent them from installing their system. If I was a K-State fan, I would really hope that wasn’t true because I would be questioning what kind of hire would agree to that.
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OrediggerPoke wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:24 pm
seattlecowboy wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:41 pm
TSpoke wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:14 am It was pretty funny to see K-state fans having a melt down online last night about hiring Klieman. Sounds like the fanbase is not happy. I think it is a great hire. Not sure who they thought they should have.

As far as Scottie goes. Not sure why Klieman wouldn't take his own D coordinator from NDSU unless he is in the running to replace him at NDSU. I think Vigen could make a decent HC. It allows someone else to call the plays on gameday.
I think part of the contract was that with Klieman hired at K-St. he would retain all of Snyders assistants.

I should edit this and say I don't know if this is true or not and if he is supposed to keep Snyders assistants but I read it in a couple of places so thought their might be something to it.
No decent head coach would agree to that. That would effectively neuter the new head coach and prevent them from installing their system. If I was a K-State fan, I would really hope that wasn’t true because I would be questioning what kind of hire would agree to that.
Joe Tiller basically did that when he took over from Coach Roach. It lasted a couple of years, before he fired most of them and brought in his own guys - which led to 1996.
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Kansas State athletic director Gene Taylor said an interview with K-StateHD TV that there was never any stipulation put on a candidate that he would have to retain any current Wildcat assistant coaches.
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LanderPoke wrote: Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:57 am
303cowboy wrote: Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:51 am Looks like K-State will hire Kleiman. Finally the butthurt bison fans will have another school to bitch at

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Good god it would be so glorious if Vigen went back to North Turdkota State.... PLEASE
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