Help for Vigen

Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:53 pm

<t>Let me help Brentsy- 
 
Since Coach Bohl in an attempt to maintain his reputation as a family man lost his stomach for sticking it in for you... I’ll help. I’ve got a lot to say, because you’ve hosed this season up in such a Todd Haley way. 
 
SJSU has 5’10 corners and 6 foot outside linebackers..We have a 6’3 Jr fullback, and a 6’2 sophomore fullback.. we also have two 6’3’s a 6’4 and a 6’7 players at tight ends..that excludes the true freshman. 
 
See what I’m doing here is pointing out the D-1 advantage that you’ve refused to utilize all season. For example, remember Albert Okwuegbunam, that 6’5 tight end from Mizzou that your linebackers couldn’t defend? No? Too busy fretting over the 6’3 receiver that ripped us for 171 yards? The first downs Ole Albert got for Mizzou kept drives alive and that’s kinda important for an offense with an Oline not known for sustaining a pocket...Kinda sounds like us huh? 
 
Question everything you thought you learned at NDSU, because this is a different game. Big facilities, great training table, strength team, and big shoe company. The Hawaii game should’ve dispelled that notion that freshmen aren’t ready to go.You got a heroic 192 yards from Nico, but their freshman passed for 148, overcame an int and managed the game for the win. Admit you were wrong on Nick, Nico & Trey... do right by them all before the season ends. They were all accomplished athletes with options before you got your clearly unqualified hands on them. Hell, admit you were wrong to keep Carson on the bench for an extra year and move forward. Be better. 
Chambers has been with you since the summer, he’s shown he’s a gamer, so if you’re going to admit you didn’t develop TVW and Nick, just don’t scapegoat students... set higher expectations for Chambers and call the plays that align with a strategic game plan AND his personal strengths and win. 
You blew it with Nick last year by calling the SJSU game as though he were Josh and then blamed him for not being that guy. Own that, you’re in Wyoming now. 
 
Next, Nico sets up the pass. A “balanced” attack along with passing YPA, wins games You must at least act like you know what that means. Your plan to run up the middle, followed by a 3 yard pass to a small receiver, followed by your “sneaky” jet sweep will lead to a long embarrassing afternoon and I cannot not afford enough beer to hide our shame. 
Fun facts: 
SJSU gave up 420 passing yards and 124 yards on the ground to Washington State.. They gave up 446 passing and 143 rushing to UCD. 
475/134 to Hawaii 
What do you think this means Brent? 
 
This isn’t rocket science.. if you can’t figure it out... install the a pistol or wishbone for Avan....nevermind 
 
TLDR 
Use your larger targets in the passing game to keep the defense from stacking the box. Stop treating the players you’ve coached for months and years like they are undersized and from Granville, frigging North Dakota.</t>

Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:05 pm

That’s funny and sad at the same time

Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:36 am

specialteamsguru wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:53 pm <t>Let me help Brentsy- 
 
Since Coach Bohl in an attempt to maintain his reputation as a family man lost his stomach for sticking it in for you... I’ll help. I’ve got a lot to say, because you’ve hosed this season up in such a Todd Haley way. 
 
SJSU has 5’10 corners and 6 foot outside linebackers..We have a 6’3 Jr fullback, and a 6’2 sophomore fullback.. we also have two 6’3’s a 6’4 and a 6’7 players at tight ends..that excludes the true freshman. 
 
See what I’m doing here is pointing out the D-1 advantage that you’ve refused to utilize all season. For example, remember Albert Okwuegbunam, that 6’5 tight end from Mizzou that your linebackers couldn’t defend? No? Too busy fretting over the 6’3 receiver that ripped us for 171 yards? The first downs Ole Albert got for Mizzou kept drives alive and that’s kinda important for an offense with an Oline not known for sustaining a pocket...Kinda sounds like us huh? 
 
Question everything you thought you learned at NDSU, because this is a different game. Big facilities, great training table, strength team, and big shoe company. The Hawaii game should’ve dispelled that notion that freshmen aren’t ready to go.You got a heroic 192 yards from Nico, but their freshman passed for 148, overcame an int and managed the game for the win. Admit you were wrong on Nick, Nico & Trey... do right by them all before the season ends. They were all accomplished athletes with options before you got your clearly unqualified hands on them. Hell, admit you were wrong to keep Carson on the bench for an extra year and move forward. Be better. 
Chambers has been with you since the summer, he’s shown he’s a gamer, so if you’re going to admit you didn’t develop TVW and Nick, just don’t scapegoat students... set higher expectations for Chambers and call the plays that align with a strategic game plan AND his personal strengths and win. 
You blew it with Nick last year by calling the SJSU game as though he were Josh and then blamed him for not being that guy. Own that, you’re in Wyoming now. 
 
Next, Nico sets up the pass. A “balanced” attack along with passing YPA, wins games You must at least act like you know what that means. Your plan to run up the middle, followed by a 3 yard pass to a small receiver, followed by your “sneaky” jet sweep will lead to a long embarrassing afternoon and I cannot not afford enough beer to hide our shame. 
Fun facts: 
SJSU gave up 420 passing yards and 124 yards on the ground to Washington State.. They gave up 446 passing and 143 rushing to UCD. 
475/134 to Hawaii 
What do you think this means Brent? 
 
This isn’t rocket science.. if you can’t figure it out... install the a pistol or wishbone for Avan....nevermind 
 
TLDR 
Use your larger targets in the passing game to keep the defense from stacking the box. Stop treating the players you’ve coached for months and years like they are undersized and from Granville, frigging North Dakota.</t>

Forwarded this to Bohl & Vigen's email. I doubt they get to it in time to install by Saturday haha.

Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:20 am

Uhhhhh...dafuq

Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:25 am

My vote for the most difficult post to read this year. Well done.

Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:29 am

First posts in the fall of 2017..."This isn’t rocket science.. if you can’t figure it out... install the a pistol or wishbone for Avan....nevermind"

Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:14 am

wyoair wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:36 am Forwarded this to Bohl & Vigen's email. I doubt they get to it in time to install by Saturday haha.

Unless you edited the hell out of it, it's going straight to the trash.

Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:52 am

BackHarlowRoad wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:14 am
wyoair wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:36 am Forwarded this to Bohl & Vigen's email. I doubt they get to it in time to install by Saturday haha.
Unless you edited the hell out of it, it's going straight to the trash.

I did a little rewording yes

Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:07 am

It is going to be truly interesting to see what Bohl does at the end of the season.

Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:10 am

Well said. Not well spoken, but well said.

Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:24 am

BackHarlowRoad wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:14 am Unless you edited the hell out of it, it's going straight to the trash.

Yes. I'm surprised the author couldn't be bothered enough to be sure the word processing markers weren't going to show up in the final product. Those make it annoying to try to read.

Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:13 pm

What the hell did I just read?

Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:32 pm

laxwyo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:13 pm What the hell did I just read?

I gave up halfway through.

Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:19 am

I edited it a bit to make it easier to read. It is actually pretty entertaining and he makes some salient points.

Let me help Brentsy

Since Coach Bohl in an attempt to maintain his reputation as a family man lost his stomach for sticking it in for you... I’ll help. I’ve got a lot to say, because you’ve hosed this season up in such a Todd Haley way.

SJSU has 5’10 corners and 6 foot outside linebackers..We have a 6’3 Jr fullback, and a 6’2 sophomore fullback.. we also have two 6’3’s a 6’4 and a 6’7 players at tight ends..that excludes the true freshman.

See what I’m doing here is pointing out the D-1 advantage that you’ve refused to utilize all season. For example, remember Albert Okwuegbunam, that 6’5 tight end from Mizzou that your linebackers couldn’t defend? No? Too busy fretting over the 6’3 receiver that ripped us for 171 yards? The first downs Ole Albert got for Mizzou kept drives alive and that’s kinda important for an offense with an Oline not known for sustaining a pocket...Kinda sounds like us huh?

Question everything you thought you learned at NDSU, because this is a different game. Big facilities, great training table, strength team, and big shoe company. The Hawaii game should’ve dispelled that notion that freshmen aren’t ready to go.You got a heroic 192 yards from Nico, but their freshman passed for 148, overcame an int and managed the game for the win. Admit you were wrong on Nick, Nico & Trey... do right by them all before the season ends. They were all accomplished athletes with options before you got your clearly unqualified hands on them. Hell, admit you were wrong to keep Carson on the bench for an extra year and move forward. Be better.

Chambers has been with you since the summer, he’s shown he’s a gamer, so if you’re going to admit you didn’t develop TVW and Nick, just don’t scapegoat students... set higher expectations for Chambers and call the plays that align with a strategic game plan AND his personal strengths and win.

You blew it with Nick last year by calling the SJSU game as though he were Josh and then blamed him for not being that guy. Own that, you’re in Wyoming now.

Next, Nico sets up the pass. A “balanced” attack along with passing YPA, wins games You must at least act like you know what that means. Your plan to run up the middle, followed by a 3 yard pass to a small receiver, followed by your “sneaky” jet sweep will lead to a long embarrassing afternoon and I cannot not afford enough beer to hide our shame.

Fun facts:
SJSU gave up 420 passing yards and 124 yards on the ground to Washington State.. They gave up 446 passing and 143 rushing to UCD.
475/134 to Hawaii
What do you think this means Brent?

This isn’t rocket science.. if you can’t figure it out... install the a pistol or wishbone for Avan....nevermind

TLDR
Use your larger targets in the passing game to keep the defense from stacking the box. Stop treating the players you’ve coached for months and years like they are undersized and from Granville, frigging North Dakota.

Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:35 am

CowboyNV wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:19 am I edited it a bit to make it easier to read. It is actually pretty entertaining and he makes some salient points.

Let me help Brentsy

Since Coach Bohl in an attempt to maintain his reputation as a family man lost his stomach for sticking it in for you... I’ll help. I’ve got a lot to say, because you’ve hosed this season up in such a Todd Haley way.

SJSU has 5’10 corners and 6 foot outside linebackers..We have a 6’3 Jr fullback, and a 6’2 sophomore fullback.. we also have two 6’3’s a 6’4 and a 6’7 players at tight ends..that excludes the true freshman.

See what I’m doing here is pointing out the D-1 advantage that you’ve refused to utilize all season. For example, remember Albert Okwuegbunam, that 6’5 tight end from Mizzou that your linebackers couldn’t defend? No? Too busy fretting over the 6’3 receiver that ripped us for 171 yards? The first downs Ole Albert got for Mizzou kept drives alive and that’s kinda important for an offense with an Oline not known for sustaining a pocket...Kinda sounds like us huh?

Question everything you thought you learned at NDSU, because this is a different game. Big facilities, great training table, strength team, and big shoe company. The Hawaii game should’ve dispelled that notion that freshmen aren’t ready to go.You got a heroic 192 yards from Nico, but their freshman passed for 148, overcame an int and managed the game for the win. Admit you were wrong on Nick, Nico & Trey... do right by them all before the season ends. They were all accomplished athletes with options before you got your clearly unqualified hands on them. Hell, admit you were wrong to keep Carson on the bench for an extra year and move forward. Be better.

Chambers has been with you since the summer, he’s shown he’s a gamer, so if you’re going to admit you didn’t develop TVW and Nick, just don’t scapegoat students... set higher expectations for Chambers and call the plays that align with a strategic game plan AND his personal strengths and win.

You blew it with Nick last year by calling the SJSU game as though he were Josh and then blamed him for not being that guy. Own that, you’re in Wyoming now.

Next, Nico sets up the pass. A “balanced” attack along with passing YPA, wins games You must at least act like you know what that means. Your plan to run up the middle, followed by a 3 yard pass to a small receiver, followed by your “sneaky” jet sweep will lead to a long embarrassing afternoon and I cannot not afford enough beer to hide our shame.

Fun facts:
SJSU gave up 420 passing yards and 124 yards on the ground to Washington State.. They gave up 446 passing and 143 rushing to UCD.
475/134 to Hawaii
What do you think this means Brent?

This isn’t rocket science.. if you can’t figure it out... install the a pistol or wishbone for Avan....nevermind

TLDR
Use your larger targets in the passing game to keep the defense from stacking the box. Stop treating the players you’ve coached for months and years like they are undersized and from Granville, frigging North Dakota.

Still reads like a stream of consciousness. Complete Ramblings.

Are people not willing to given Vigen credit for making changes when he did? It may have been late for some people but he made an offensive scheme change along with a personnel change that everyone was looking for.

Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:52 am

TSpoke wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:35 am
CowboyNV wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:19 am I edited it a bit to make it easier to read. It is actually pretty entertaining and he makes some salient points.

Let me help Brentsy

Since Coach Bohl in an attempt to maintain his reputation as a family man lost his stomach for sticking it in for you... I’ll help. I’ve got a lot to say, because you’ve hosed this season up in such a Todd Haley way.

SJSU has 5’10 corners and 6 foot outside linebackers..We have a 6’3 Jr fullback, and a 6’2 sophomore fullback.. we also have two 6’3’s a 6’4 and a 6’7 players at tight ends..that excludes the true freshman.

See what I’m doing here is pointing out the D-1 advantage that you’ve refused to utilize all season. For example, remember Albert Okwuegbunam, that 6’5 tight end from Mizzou that your linebackers couldn’t defend? No? Too busy fretting over the 6’3 receiver that ripped us for 171 yards? The first downs Ole Albert got for Mizzou kept drives alive and that’s kinda important for an offense with an Oline not known for sustaining a pocket...Kinda sounds like us huh?

Question everything you thought you learned at NDSU, because this is a different game. Big facilities, great training table, strength team, and big shoe company. The Hawaii game should’ve dispelled that notion that freshmen aren’t ready to go.You got a heroic 192 yards from Nico, but their freshman passed for 148, overcame an int and managed the game for the win. Admit you were wrong on Nick, Nico & Trey... do right by them all before the season ends. They were all accomplished athletes with options before you got your clearly unqualified hands on them. Hell, admit you were wrong to keep Carson on the bench for an extra year and move forward. Be better.

Chambers has been with you since the summer, he’s shown he’s a gamer, so if you’re going to admit you didn’t develop TVW and Nick, just don’t scapegoat students... set higher expectations for Chambers and call the plays that align with a strategic game plan AND his personal strengths and win.

You blew it with Nick last year by calling the SJSU game as though he were Josh and then blamed him for not being that guy. Own that, you’re in Wyoming now.

Next, Nico sets up the pass. A “balanced” attack along with passing YPA, wins games You must at least act like you know what that means. Your plan to run up the middle, followed by a 3 yard pass to a small receiver, followed by your “sneaky” jet sweep will lead to a long embarrassing afternoon and I cannot not afford enough beer to hide our shame.

Fun facts:
SJSU gave up 420 passing yards and 124 yards on the ground to Washington State.. They gave up 446 passing and 143 rushing to UCD.
475/134 to Hawaii
What do you think this means Brent?

This isn’t rocket science.. if you can’t figure it out... install the a pistol or wishbone for Avan....nevermind

TLDR
Use your larger targets in the passing game to keep the defense from stacking the box. Stop treating the players you’ve coached for months and years like they are undersized and from Granville, frigging North Dakota.

Still reads like a stream of consciousness. Complete Ramblings.

Are people not willing to given Vigen credit for making changes when he did? It may have been late for some people but he made an offensive scheme change along with a personnel change that everyone was looking for.

I've been waiting for 5 years for Vigen to make a change, so no, I'm not giving him much credit at all. How many times does one have to run into a brick wall before he/she goes around? Both Vigen and Bohl should have recognized this a long time ago.

Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:04 am

TSpoke wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:35 am
CowboyNV wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:19 am I edited it a bit to make it easier to read. It is actually pretty entertaining and he makes some salient points.

Let me help Brentsy

Since Coach Bohl in an attempt to maintain his reputation as a family man lost his stomach for sticking it in for you... I’ll help. I’ve got a lot to say, because you’ve hosed this season up in such a Todd Haley way.

SJSU has 5’10 corners and 6 foot outside linebackers..We have a 6’3 Jr fullback, and a 6’2 sophomore fullback.. we also have two 6’3’s a 6’4 and a 6’7 players at tight ends..that excludes the true freshman.

See what I’m doing here is pointing out the D-1 advantage that you’ve refused to utilize all season. For example, remember Albert Okwuegbunam, that 6’5 tight end from Mizzou that your linebackers couldn’t defend? No? Too busy fretting over the 6’3 receiver that ripped us for 171 yards? The first downs Ole Albert got for Mizzou kept drives alive and that’s kinda important for an offense with an Oline not known for sustaining a pocket...Kinda sounds like us huh?

Question everything you thought you learned at NDSU, because this is a different game. Big facilities, great training table, strength team, and big shoe company. The Hawaii game should’ve dispelled that notion that freshmen aren’t ready to go.You got a heroic 192 yards from Nico, but their freshman passed for 148, overcame an int and managed the game for the win. Admit you were wrong on Nick, Nico & Trey... do right by them all before the season ends. They were all accomplished athletes with options before you got your clearly unqualified hands on them. Hell, admit you were wrong to keep Carson on the bench for an extra year and move forward. Be better.

Chambers has been with you since the summer, he’s shown he’s a gamer, so if you’re going to admit you didn’t develop TVW and Nick, just don’t scapegoat students... set higher expectations for Chambers and call the plays that align with a strategic game plan AND his personal strengths and win.

You blew it with Nick last year by calling the SJSU game as though he were Josh and then blamed him for not being that guy. Own that, you’re in Wyoming now.

Next, Nico sets up the pass. A “balanced” attack along with passing YPA, wins games You must at least act like you know what that means. Your plan to run up the middle, followed by a 3 yard pass to a small receiver, followed by your “sneaky” jet sweep will lead to a long embarrassing afternoon and I cannot not afford enough beer to hide our shame.

Fun facts:
SJSU gave up 420 passing yards and 124 yards on the ground to Washington State.. They gave up 446 passing and 143 rushing to UCD.
475/134 to Hawaii
What do you think this means Brent?

This isn’t rocket science.. if you can’t figure it out... install the a pistol or wishbone for Avan....nevermind

TLDR
Use your larger targets in the passing game to keep the defense from stacking the box. Stop treating the players you’ve coached for months and years like they are undersized and from Granville, frigging North Dakota.

Still reads like a stream of consciousness. Complete Ramblings.

Are people not willing to given Vigen credit for making changes when he did? It may have been late for some people but he made an offensive scheme change along with a personnel change that everyone was looking for.

I am hesitant to give him too much credit for the change to Chambers, which was a great one, because it snaps into focus the fact that one of two things were going on this season (and neither are good or a kudos for Vigen): 1. Vigen willingly sat the better of the two QBs at his disposal to the detriment of the team OR 2. Vigen didn't realize Chambers was the better of his two QBs which is alarming coming from an alleged "QB Whisperer". Yeah I am glad that Chambers is the dude going forward but its alarming that it took as long as it did based on the results we've seen.

Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:35 am

Lose to SJSU then the writing will truly be on the wall for this staff

Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:34 pm

And I don't mean to seem like I am praising Vigen. I was just trying to understand the OP. I could only make sense of maybe half of it. It is a rambling rant. I thought Vigen had a good week last week and we might get a little break from the anger towards him till his next screw up.

Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:43 pm

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I am hesitant to give him too much credit for the change to Chambers, which was a great one, because it snaps into focus the fact that one of two things were going on this season (and neither are good or a kudos for Vigen): 1. Vigen willingly sat the better of the two QBs at his disposal to the detriment of the team OR 2. Vigen didn't realize Chambers was the better of his two QBs which is alarming coming from an alleged "QB Whisperer". Yeah I am glad that Chambers is the dude going forward but its alarming that it took as long as it did based on the results we've seen.
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