Bingo. The guy really perks up when Wyoming loses. Kind of guy who can't climb up, so he revels when others fall down. Probably participates in dead pools. Baked cupcakes when Princess Diana was killed ..fromolwyoming wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:32 am What do I think going forward?
That "fans" like SDPokeFan should just go and cheer for their FCS hard-on school and leave UW alone. Since the only time they pop up is either when UW loses or when they pop-off that we should drop down a division.
What do you think going forward?
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If we only posted when we won, this message board wouldn't exist. You're only allowed to post when we win. See you next year.Wyovanian wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:18 amBingo. The guy really perks up when Wyoming loses. Kind of guy who can't climb up, so he revels when others fall down. Probably participates in dead pools. Baked cupcakes when Princess Diana was killed ..fromolwyoming wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:32 am What do I think going forward?
That "fans" like SDPokeFan should just go and cheer for their FCS hard-on school and leave UW alone. Since the only time they pop up is either when UW loses or when they pop-off that we should drop down a division.
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https://www.france24.com/en/20181008-re ... ction-geneSDPokeFan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:58 pmIf we only posted when we won, this message board wouldn't exist. You're only allowed to post when we win. See you next year.Wyovanian wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:18 amBingo. The guy really perks up when Wyoming loses. Kind of guy who can't climb up, so he revels when others fall down. Probably participates in dead pools. Baked cupcakes when Princess Diana was killed ..fromolwyoming wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:32 am What do I think going forward?
That "fans" like SDPokeFan should just go and cheer for their FCS hard-on school and leave UW alone. Since the only time they pop up is either when UW loses or when they pop-off that we should drop down a division.
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Ha! Been doing some research have you?Wyovanian wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:27 pmhttps://www.france24.com/en/20181008-re ... ction-geneSDPokeFan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:58 pmIf we only posted when we won, this message board wouldn't exist. You're only allowed to post when we win. See you next year.Wyovanian wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:18 amBingo. The guy really perks up when Wyoming loses. Kind of guy who can't climb up, so he revels when others fall down. Probably participates in dead pools. Baked cupcakes when Princess Diana was killed ..fromolwyoming wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:32 am What do I think going forward?
That "fans" like SDPokeFan should just go and cheer for their FCS hard-on school and leave UW alone. Since the only time they pop up is either when UW loses or when they pop-off that we should drop down a division.
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Not really. Saw the headline while perusing Drudge Report. Saw it and naturally I thought of you...SDPokeFan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:13 pmHa! Been doing some research have you?Wyovanian wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:27 pmhttps://www.france24.com/en/20181008-re ... ction-geneSDPokeFan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:58 pmIf we only posted when we won, this message board wouldn't exist. You're only allowed to post when we win. See you next year.Wyovanian wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:18 amBingo. The guy really perks up when Wyoming loses. Kind of guy who can't climb up, so he revels when others fall down. Probably participates in dead pools. Baked cupcakes when Princess Diana was killed ..fromolwyoming wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:32 am What do I think going forward?
That "fans" like SDPokeFan should just go and cheer for their FCS hard-on school and leave UW alone. Since the only time they pop up is either when UW loses or when they pop-off that we should drop down a division.
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Haha, he ignores this aspect of the argument every single time it's brought up. Avoidance is pretty much the same as conceding in my opinion.WestWYOPoke wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:22 amWyoming. Would. Lose. At. FCS. Level.SDPokeFan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:28 amThe point is being worse/equal to one of those schools is more acceptable if we are on the same level as them. Nobody would care that we needed a last second drive to beat mighty Wofford if we also played at the same level they do. If we are FCS that doesn’t prevent us from playing FBS teams and getting skull drug like we do now. That can still happen. At least we’d get paid for it.WestWYOPoke wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:20 amIf you truly think that those teams are consistently better than Wyoming, then what in the world makes you think UW is going to get any better if they drop to FCS. Not only will they lose to the Dakota schools that you clearly have a hard-on for, but they'll lose to a lot of other FCS teams. If your argument for dropping is that you don't like losing, then you are way off. Given your lofty view of Wyoming's potential, I'd rather lose at the FBS level than lose at the FCS level.SDPokeFan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:49 am
Born and raised in Casper. Sorry to disappoint. Just tired of having a terrible football team, which none of you ever seem to get sick of. I notice none of you disputed the three aforementioned teams would roll Wyoming, so I’m not sure why you think, say an SDSU or NDSU fan would have an inferiority complex. News flash: they are better than Wyoming at football this year and most years. What about that is so hard to understand? Must be those 80 yards passing Wyoming churns out per game that has you convinced otherwise.
It seems to me nobody cares if Wyoming is competitive. All that matters is if they are FBS—by name, not product on the field, mind you. If that’s the case, fine. But everyone needs to quit getting on here and acting shocked when they get thumped 8 times a year. Because as long as they are FBS that’s all that is ever going to happen. Changed coaches, change schemes, build HPACs....it doesn’t matter.
What part of this is so hard for your puppet mind to grasp.
Hope you're doing well WWP!
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There is no evidence we would lose at FCS level. Every saying it doesn’t make it so. All we have factual data on is that the team is woeful at the FBS level. This we know for sure.BackHarlowRoad wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:59 pmHaha, he ignores this aspect of the argument every single time it's brought up. Avoidance is pretty much the same as conceding in my opinion.WestWYOPoke wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:22 amWyoming. Would. Lose. At. FCS. Level.SDPokeFan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:28 amThe point is being worse/equal to one of those schools is more acceptable if we are on the same level as them. Nobody would care that we needed a last second drive to beat mighty Wofford if we also played at the same level they do. If we are FCS that doesn’t prevent us from playing FBS teams and getting skull drug like we do now. That can still happen. At least we’d get paid for it.WestWYOPoke wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:20 amIf you truly think that those teams are consistently better than Wyoming, then what in the world makes you think UW is going to get any better if they drop to FCS. Not only will they lose to the Dakota schools that you clearly have a hard-on for, but they'll lose to a lot of other FCS teams. If your argument for dropping is that you don't like losing, then you are way off. Given your lofty view of Wyoming's potential, I'd rather lose at the FBS level than lose at the FCS level.SDPokeFan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:49 am
Born and raised in Casper. Sorry to disappoint. Just tired of having a terrible football team, which none of you ever seem to get sick of. I notice none of you disputed the three aforementioned teams would roll Wyoming, so I’m not sure why you think, say an SDSU or NDSU fan would have an inferiority complex. News flash: they are better than Wyoming at football this year and most years. What about that is so hard to understand? Must be those 80 yards passing Wyoming churns out per game that has you convinced otherwise.
It seems to me nobody cares if Wyoming is competitive. All that matters is if they are FBS—by name, not product on the field, mind you. If that’s the case, fine. But everyone needs to quit getting on here and acting shocked when they get thumped 8 times a year. Because as long as they are FBS that’s all that is ever going to happen. Changed coaches, change schemes, build HPACs....it doesn’t matter.
What part of this is so hard for your puppet mind to grasp.
Hope you're doing well WWP!
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SPokeFan
Because you struggle, I have generously taken the time to put together a logical list of questions for you to answer:
1) Are you aware of any teams dropping from FBS to FCS within the past 15 years?
2) How did those team(s) perform in their move to FCS?
3) How were those team(s) average game attendance affected?
4) How did those team(s) fare in terms of revenue generated from their football program before and after the move?
We look forward to your analysis and results.
HINT: You should look at a team that rhymes with 'candles' to assist you in your analysis.
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Doing good, just started a new job so things have been pretty hectic, but good. Hope you are doing well also!BackHarlowRoad wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:59 pmHaha, he ignores this aspect of the argument every single time it's brought up. Avoidance is pretty much the same as conceding in my opinion.WestWYOPoke wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:22 am
Wyoming. Would. Lose. At. FCS. Level.
What part of this is so hard for your puppet mind to grasp.
Hope you're doing well WWP!
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Quite the giant sample size you recommended.OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:18 pmSPokeFan
Because you struggle, I have generously taken the time to put together a logical list of questions for you to answer:
1) Are you aware of any teams dropping from FBS to FCS within the past 15 years?
2) How did those team(s) perform in their move to FCS?
3) How were those team(s) average game attendance affected?
4) How did those team(s) fare in terms of revenue generated from their football program before and after the move?
We look forward to your analysis and results.
HINT: You should look at a team that rhymes with 'candles' to assist you in your analysis.
Here’s some questions for you:
1. Is Wyoming good this year?
2. Are they going to be good next year?
3. Have they been consistently good over the past, say 30 years?
4. Would you like to bet $100 on Saturdays game? I get Fresno, you get the juggernaut Pokes.
Stanard and Hazelton both started with the same base defense, but Hazelton was 10x more effective with how he used and evolved it. The same can be true for the offense. I believe numerous others, including Vigen's OC predecessor (Perles) and successors (Polesek) at NDSU, or maybe a young OL/RB coach from a Stanford or Michigan State, could do far better with the exact same base system (key being "base").seattlecowboy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:49 pm Bohl won't be getting rid of Vigen and I don't think it would matter.
I read on the other board something about during the broadcast of the Hawaii game the announcers said they had asked Bohl about going with a more finesse style offense, and he said something like it would be a travesty if he changed his offensive philosophy.
So that pretty much sums up that the problem with the offense is most likely the head coach and it doesn't matter who the OC is.
Not sure if anyone else heard this.
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There is no evidence we would win at (the) FCS level. You saying it doesn't make it so. All we have factual data on is that the team is woeful at the FBS level. This we know for sure.
You don't need statistical evidence to know that we would not garner the same recruits we currently do if we dropped levels. That's common sense.
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This is just plain dumb. We'll never go down a level so why is this being discussed even?
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I am one that expected much more than what has been seen on field, pre-season. The defense, maybe good, not near what I anticipated. I believed we’d see a lot more pressure put on QBs.J-Rod wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:41 am They should have lost to Boise, they did.
They probably should lose to Hawaii, they did.
They should definitely lose to Fresno and USU. They probably will.
Then the should's end. The CSU, AFA, SJSU, UNM stretch begins. Likely to win all four? No, not at all...but those games are at least winnable. Opponents with problems, just like the Pokes.
All that said, let's say they finish 4-8/5-7 like the FPI numbers suggest they will. Man, with all the talent on defense graduating and the offense in trouble (Evans is a senior too IIRC)...2019 off-season will bring up more questions than we've gotten used to about Bohl's boys since the magical 2016 season. No doubt the preseason magazines wouldn't be kind.
I’ve seen what I expected from the offense. The same predictable output as the last couple of years. Nothing innovative, which makes me believe it doesn’t require a lot to prepare to play against us.
I’m not optimistic about wins against CSU, AF NMU.
Not even close to true. We haven't had a losing season since 2015. Maybe you should do some research or go troll some other fan base.SDPokeFan wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:58 pmThere is no evidence we would lose at FCS level. Every saying it doesn’t make it so. All we have factual data on is that the team is woeful at the FBS level. This we know for sure.BackHarlowRoad wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:59 pmHaha, he ignores this aspect of the argument every single time it's brought up. Avoidance is pretty much the same as conceding in my opinion.WestWYOPoke wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:22 amWyoming. Would. Lose. At. FCS. Level.SDPokeFan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:28 amThe point is being worse/equal to one of those schools is more acceptable if we are on the same level as them. Nobody would care that we needed a last second drive to beat mighty Wofford if we also played at the same level they do. If we are FCS that doesn’t prevent us from playing FBS teams and getting skull drug like we do now. That can still happen. At least we’d get paid for it.WestWYOPoke wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:20 amIf you truly think that those teams are consistently better than Wyoming, then what in the world makes you think UW is going to get any better if they drop to FCS. Not only will they lose to the Dakota schools that you clearly have a hard-on for, but they'll lose to a lot of other FCS teams. If your argument for dropping is that you don't like losing, then you are way off. Given your lofty view of Wyoming's potential, I'd rather lose at the FBS level than lose at the FCS level.SDPokeFan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:49 am
Born and raised in Casper. Sorry to disappoint. Just tired of having a terrible football team, which none of you ever seem to get sick of. I notice none of you disputed the three aforementioned teams would roll Wyoming, so I’m not sure why you think, say an SDSU or NDSU fan would have an inferiority complex. News flash: they are better than Wyoming at football this year and most years. What about that is so hard to understand? Must be those 80 yards passing Wyoming churns out per game that has you convinced otherwise.
It seems to me nobody cares if Wyoming is competitive. All that matters is if they are FBS—by name, not product on the field, mind you. If that’s the case, fine. But everyone needs to quit getting on here and acting shocked when they get thumped 8 times a year. Because as long as they are FBS that’s all that is ever going to happen. Changed coaches, change schemes, build HPACs....it doesn’t matter.
What part of this is so hard for your puppet mind to grasp.
Hope you're doing well WWP!