Wyoming set for home and home with BYU
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Just remember that. It's good to have a team that you hate and want to beat no matter what and BYU is that team for me. Lot's of history, and you know the stands will be packed for the games in Provo and Laramie it makes good money sense.
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Bah. it only toom Burman a solid decade to settle into his job. His last three years have been OK, but before that was the dark ages.Poke in New England wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:32 pmYou don't actually believe this do you? Burman has overseen the return of our football program to relevance. He brought in Criag Bohl, who I believe we will look back on as the savior of Wyoming football. We now have football facilities that rival power 5 schools. We compete for conference titles in many other sports (S&D, Women's BBall, Volleyball).
Sports beefs are best settled on the field. Conference realignment is the norm now. It will be fun wiping the floor with BYU after we've become a perennial championship contender in the Mountain West that sends multiple guys to the league every year. I know some of the complainers out there have season tickets, so if you're still on your high horse by the time this game rolls around I will happily take them off you
You forget what backstabbing cheap shot artists they are. Guarantee one of these games is going to be late in the year. Why? Why do that to ourselves? If we really have a "laser-like focus to win conference championships" or whatever we should not be scheduling other games right in home stretch of our conference season
Holy hell some of you guys have some absurd hatred for BYU. Lol @ the guy saying he's going to cancel his season tickets.
Granted I am younger, so BYU has been independent ever since I graduated high school, but I've never met a Wyoming fan. Had no idea some of you guys still have so much pent up anger about BYU leaving the conference (for the record, it would have been stupid to stay).
Is it just a vocal minority that's like this or is the majority of the Wyoming fan base a bunch of BYU haters?
Regardless, I look forward to our upcoming games. Go Cougs!
Granted I am younger, so BYU has been independent ever since I graduated high school, but I've never met a Wyoming fan. Had no idea some of you guys still have so much pent up anger about BYU leaving the conference (for the record, it would have been stupid to stay).
Is it just a vocal minority that's like this or is the majority of the Wyoming fan base a bunch of BYU haters?
Regardless, I look forward to our upcoming games. Go Cougs!
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FYI there Sheldon, Boise and SDSU happen to still be in the conference. We don't have a choice to schedule them or not. If they left for independent status, then I would say the same to them.ItSucksToBeACSURam wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:21 pmOOOH such a fire take. F Burman. He's such the villain! Haha. I don't understand that perspective. We play Boise ever single year and have played SDSU multiple times since they tried to do the exact same thing to the conference. I don't hear anyone clamoring and bickering and threatening to cancel season tickets when we play them...Wyolie Coyote wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:16 pmSo why would we agree to go to Provostan first? They need us, not the other way around. F Burman.ItSucksToBeACSURam wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:58 pm Haha, I can't imagine being so hurt by this as to claiming I'll cancel my season tickets. Haha. By that point, they are going to SO irrelevant and were going to be coming off another MW title and NY5 game. Were going to beat the poop out of them. Hell, by that point we'll be running the Big 10.....
Not a fan of this decision. Should have let them wither and die. The least Burman could have done was make them come here first. There'd better be an enormous buyout clause to prevent them weaseling out of the return game - and they will try.
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Never said we have a choice to play them. But fans certainly have the choice to be ridiculously over butthurt towards these skallywags and their decision to try to screw over the conference and the Pokes. Just because their plan failed and they came back with their tail between their legs doesnt meant they wouldnt have traded anything they could to move to a P5 conference regardless of the impact it would have had on the MWC and Wyoming. NEWSFLASH: Wyoming would too if a better conference came calling or a better situation presented itself. Don't kid yourself that UW or CSU or BSU or any of these teams still in the MWC wouldn't stab their mom if it meant they'd move to the Big 10 and wouldn't give a single poop what it meant for the survivability of the MWC or it's associated teams.Wyolie Coyote wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:53 pmFYI there Sheldon, Boise and SDSU happen to still be in the conference. We don't have a choice to schedule them or not. If they left for independent status, then I would say the same to them.ItSucksToBeACSURam wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:21 pmOOOH such a fire take. F Burman. He's such the villain! Haha. I don't understand that perspective. We play Boise ever single year and have played SDSU multiple times since they tried to do the exact same thing to the conference. I don't hear anyone clamoring and bickering and threatening to cancel season tickets when we play them...Wyolie Coyote wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:16 pmSo why would we agree to go to Provostan first? They need us, not the other way around. F Burman.ItSucksToBeACSURam wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:58 pm Haha, I can't imagine being so hurt by this as to claiming I'll cancel my season tickets. Haha. By that point, they are going to SO irrelevant and were going to be coming off another MW title and NY5 game. Were going to beat the poop out of them. Hell, by that point we'll be running the Big 10.....
Conference realignment is a part of NCAAF and will never go away. If you cross your arms and stamp your feet and shake your fist at playing a team that made a decision it believed would better its position than the Pokes aren't going to play too many teams outside of conference ever again...
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Have you seen their program? They are withering and dying... By the time we play them they will have jumped back into the first conference that will accept them.
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Your school tried to put an end to Wyoming athletics as we know it (after being in the same conference for 80 years). Luckily the backstabbers plan ultimately failed and the WAC never materialized. There is absolutely nothing nice to say about BYU athletics and so I will refrain.BYU Fan 7 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:26 pm Holy hell some of you guys have some absurd hatred for BYU. Lol @ the guy saying he's going to cancel his season tickets.
Granted I am younger, so BYU has been independent ever since I graduated high school, but I've never met a Wyoming fan. Had no idea some of you guys still have so much pent up anger about BYU leaving the conference (for the record, it would have been stupid to stay).
Is it just a vocal minority that's like this or is the majority of the Wyoming fan base a bunch of BYU haters?
Regardless, I look forward to our upcoming games. Go Cougs!
Other than the 2016 Poinsettia Bowl, nope.
Good. Hope it continues. Wish we weren't part of it.
Great. Hope it isn't the MWC. Don't want to have to deal with their holier-than-thou BS ever again.ItSucksToBeACSURam wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:59 pm By the time we play them they will have jumped back into the first conference that will accept them.
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I am serious. Season tickets would come with a byu ticket. I cannot and will not support that. To me the whole issue is sacrificing principles for money. Tom Burman took a stand when byu went independent stating that we would not be scheduling byu and he apparently changed course. BYU took a stand when it tried to leave its longtime conference member Wyoming to whither and die with a 'new WAC' that never materialized but which would have left Wyoming out and likely headed to FCS.
You are free to support byu and this game all that you want. That is your choice just as my choice is to refrain from supporting such a series.
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So BYU had a better conference or better situation presented itself? Really? If so, then they don't need UW on their schedule. Again, screw them and Burman for going against his word.ItSucksToBeACSURam wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:58 pm
Never said we have a choice to play them. But fans certainly have the choice to be ridiculously over butthurt towards these skallywags and their decision to try to screw over the conference and the Pokes. Just because their plan failed and they came back with their tail between their legs doesnt meant they wouldnt have traded anything they could to move to a P5 conference regardless of the impact it would have had on the MWC and Wyoming. NEWSFLASH: Wyoming would too if a better conference came calling or a better situation presented itself. Don't kid yourself that UW or CSU or BSU or any of these teams still in the MWC wouldn't stab their mom if it meant they'd move to the Big 10 and wouldn't give a single poop what it meant for the survivability of the MWC or it's associated teams.
Conference realignment is a part of NCAAF and will never go away. If you cross your arms and stamp your feet and shake your fist at playing a team that made a decision it believed would better its position than the Pokes aren't going to play too many teams outside of conference ever again...
Hate to break it to you but comparing BYU to SDSU or Boise is a moronic argument. BYU made their own bed, let them lie in it.
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Thats a helluva stretch there.... I guess buying season tickets means I am actually supporting every team on the Cowboys schedule? I wonder when I'll get my letter from Wofford thanking me for my generous offerings...OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:11 pmI am serious. Season tickets would come with a byu ticket. I cannot and will not support that. To me the whole issue is sacrificing principles for money. Tom Burman took a stand when byu went independent stating that we would not be scheduling byu and he apparently changed course. BYU took a stand when it tried to leave its longtime conference member Wyoming to whither and die with a 'new WAC' that never materialized but which would have left Wyoming out and likely headed to FCS.
You are free to support byu and this game all that you want. That is your choice just as my choice is to refrain from supporting such a series.
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Go awayBYU Fan 7 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:26 pm Holy hell some of you guys have some absurd hatred for BYU. Lol @ the guy saying he's going to cancel his season tickets.
Granted I am younger, so BYU has been independent ever since I graduated high school, but I've never met a Wyoming fan. Had no idea some of you guys still have so much pent up anger about BYU leaving the conference (for the record, it would have been stupid to stay).
Is it just a vocal minority that's like this or is the majority of the Wyoming fan base a bunch of BYU haters?
Regardless, I look forward to our upcoming games. Go Cougs!
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I have no idea what they had. I'm just saying, they obviously viewed their options and one option looked better and more advantageous than what they had. Its the exact same reason comparing BYU to BSU/SDSU is right on the money. There isn't a team in the G5 who wouldn't stab every other team in the back for a chance to make themselves relevant in the P5.Wyolie Coyote wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:16 pmSo BYU had a better conference or better situation presented itself? Really? If so, then they don't need UW on their schedule. Again, screw them and Burman for going against his word.ItSucksToBeACSURam wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:58 pm
Never said we have a choice to play them. But fans certainly have the choice to be ridiculously over butthurt towards these skallywags and their decision to try to screw over the conference and the Pokes. Just because their plan failed and they came back with their tail between their legs doesnt meant they wouldnt have traded anything they could to move to a P5 conference regardless of the impact it would have had on the MWC and Wyoming. NEWSFLASH: Wyoming would too if a better conference came calling or a better situation presented itself. Don't kid yourself that UW or CSU or BSU or any of these teams still in the MWC wouldn't stab their mom if it meant they'd move to the Big 10 and wouldn't give a single poop what it meant for the survivability of the MWC or it's associated teams.
Conference realignment is a part of NCAAF and will never go away. If you cross your arms and stamp your feet and shake your fist at playing a team that made a decision it believed would better its position than the Pokes aren't going to play too many teams outside of conference ever again...
Hate to break it to you but comparing BYU to SDSU or Boise is a moronic argument. BYU made their own bed, let them lie in it.
As far as their bed and them laying it, I can't disagree. I will never say that UW needed to play BYU or that we can't survive without them. I will also never stomp around hoot and holler because big bad BYU came calling again after 8 years.
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Yes, by buying tickets you are supporting every team on the Cowboys schedule. When Wofford comes to town, they get a 'guarantee' usually of $500,000 or so. Wyoming can only provide this guarantee if it can sell tickets to make the game make financial sense. If not, Wyoming will not and could not schedule such FCS home games because it cannot operate its programs in the drastic red. Wofford relies on the guarantee to improve and to keep its program operating. Buying tickets therefore supports Wofford football. I am happy to be supporting Wofford football this year with my season ticket purchase and will root for them in all of their games other than the one against Wyoming (or the Montanas should they meet in the playoffs).ItSucksToBeACSURam wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:25 pmThats a helluva stretch there.... I guess buying season tickets means I am actually supporting every team on the Cowboys schedule? I wonder when I'll get my letter from Wofford thanking me for my generous offerings...OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:11 pmI am serious. Season tickets would come with a byu ticket. I cannot and will not support that. To me the whole issue is sacrificing principles for money. Tom Burman took a stand when byu went independent stating that we would not be scheduling byu and he apparently changed course. BYU took a stand when it tried to leave its longtime conference member Wyoming to whither and die with a 'new WAC' that never materialized but which would have left Wyoming out and likely headed to FCS.
You are free to support byu and this game all that you want. That is your choice just as my choice is to refrain from supporting such a series.
When a team schedules a home and home there usually is not a guarantee as the teams just trade the opportunity to host and make money from their own ticket sales. But BYU is getting a home game that will probably sell a lot of tickets and make a lot of money for BYU and it is also getting schedule relief for its otherwise difficult task of scheduling late season games as an independent. Whether you like it or not, supporting such a series directly supports byu athletics. I'm sure byu would be happy to send you some gear to wear if you would like too.
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Learn the history better. It's a lot more complicated than you're making it out to be. If you walked out the door on your own instead of knifing other programs in the back, nobody would care anymore.BYU Fan 7 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:26 pm Holy hell some of you guys have some absurd hatred for BYU. Lol @ the guy saying he's going to cancel his season tickets.
Granted I am younger, so BYU has been independent ever since I graduated high school, but I've never met a Wyoming fan. Had no idea some of you guys still have so much pent up anger about BYU leaving the conference (for the record, it would have been stupid to stay).
Is it just a vocal minority that's like this or is the majority of the Wyoming fan base a bunch of BYU haters?
Regardless, I look forward to our upcoming games. Go Cougs!
It's more than just a minority who hate BYU. And this is coming from someone who is in favor of playing the series.
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Well I am Cowboys fan so I wouldn't really need any....OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:46 pmYes, by buying tickets you are supporting every team on the Cowboys schedule. When Wofford comes to town, they get a 'guarantee' usually of $500,000 or so. Wyoming can only provide this guarantee if it can sell tickets to make the game make financial sense. If not, Wyoming will not and could not schedule such FCS home games because it cannot operate its programs in the drastic red. Wofford relies on the guarantee to improve and to keep its program operating. Buying tickets therefore supports Wofford football. I am happy to be supporting Wofford football this year with my season ticket purchase and will root for them in all of their games other than the one against Wyoming (or the Montanas should they meet in the playoffs).ItSucksToBeACSURam wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:25 pmThats a helluva stretch there.... I guess buying season tickets means I am actually supporting every team on the Cowboys schedule? I wonder when I'll get my letter from Wofford thanking me for my generous offerings...OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:11 pmI am serious. Season tickets would come with a byu ticket. I cannot and will not support that. To me the whole issue is sacrificing principles for money. Tom Burman took a stand when byu went independent stating that we would not be scheduling byu and he apparently changed course. BYU took a stand when it tried to leave its longtime conference member Wyoming to whither and die with a 'new WAC' that never materialized but which would have left Wyoming out and likely headed to FCS.
You are free to support byu and this game all that you want. That is your choice just as my choice is to refrain from supporting such a series.
When a team schedules a home and home there usually is not a guarantee as the teams just trade the opportunity to host and make money from their own ticket sales. But BYU is getting a home game that will probably sell a lot of tickets and make a lot of money for BYU and it is also getting schedule relief for its otherwise difficult task of scheduling late season games as an independent. Whether you like it or not, supporting such a series directly supports byu athletics. I'm sure byu would be happy to send you some gear to wear if you would like too.
This is going to come as a HUGE shock to you, but I understand how money works and how UW pays teams to come to Laramie. But I am not so deluded to think that because I buy season tickets in 2024 that I am actually a closet BYU fan and choose to support their program. If I go to the CSU game this fall, does that mean I am actually a supporter of CSU?
And when you REALLY look at it, a home and home is actually a wash. Our fans support their team for a year while theirs supports ours for a year. Does our secret fandom actually cancel out now? Who do I root for after that?
I love conspiracy theoriesPoke in New England wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:52 pmLearn the history better. It's a lot more complicated than you're making it out to be. If you walked out the door on your own instead of knifing other programs in the back, nobody would care anymore.BYU Fan 7 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:26 pm Holy hell some of you guys have some absurd hatred for BYU. Lol @ the guy saying he's going to cancel his season tickets.
Granted I am younger, so BYU has been independent ever since I graduated high school, but I've never met a Wyoming fan. Had no idea some of you guys still have so much pent up anger about BYU leaving the conference (for the record, it would have been stupid to stay).
Is it just a vocal minority that's like this or is the majority of the Wyoming fan base a bunch of BYU haters?
Regardless, I look forward to our upcoming games. Go Cougs!
It's more than just a minority who hate BYU. And this is coming from someone who is in favor of playing the series.
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Look, if BYU had just gone Indy, whatever. It wouldn't have been a big deal. But it was so much more than that.BYU Fan 7 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:34 pmI love conspiracy theoriesPoke in New England wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:52 pmLearn the history better. It's a lot more complicated than you're making it out to be. If you walked out the door on your own instead of knifing other programs in the back, nobody would care anymore.BYU Fan 7 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:26 pm Holy hell some of you guys have some absurd hatred for BYU. Lol @ the guy saying he's going to cancel his season tickets.
Granted I am younger, so BYU has been independent ever since I graduated high school, but I've never met a Wyoming fan. Had no idea some of you guys still have so much pent up anger about BYU leaving the conference (for the record, it would have been stupid to stay).
Is it just a vocal minority that's like this or is the majority of the Wyoming fan base a bunch of BYU haters?
Regardless, I look forward to our upcoming games. Go Cougs!
It's more than just a minority who hate BYU. And this is coming from someone who is in favor of playing the series.
Here's a quick rundown of what went down;
BYU went Indy, and then tried to lure some of the programs in the MWC back to the WAC in order to cement long term opponents. And this was right after TCU and Utah left. Which would have left the remaining MWC schools in a similar position to what happened to the WAC. If not for the UNLV AD speaking up about it, schools like Wyoming and the other Front Range schools, would have been bent over the barrel. Hard.
That, combined with generations of constant BYU fan arrogance, yeah.
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BYU wanted Fresno, Joser, Nevada and Utah state to go over. Utah State was all for it because they are BYU Jr., but Fresno, Nevada and Joser told BYU to f off. and now BYU plays by itself like a loser for participation ribbons each yearfromolwyoming wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:47 pmLook, if BYU had just gone Indy, whatever. It wouldn't have been a big deal. But it was so much more than that.BYU Fan 7 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:34 pmI love conspiracy theoriesPoke in New England wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:52 pmLearn the history better. It's a lot more complicated than you're making it out to be. If you walked out the door on your own instead of knifing other programs in the back, nobody would care anymore.BYU Fan 7 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:26 pm Holy hell some of you guys have some absurd hatred for BYU. Lol @ the guy saying he's going to cancel his season tickets.
Granted I am younger, so BYU has been independent ever since I graduated high school, but I've never met a Wyoming fan. Had no idea some of you guys still have so much pent up anger about BYU leaving the conference (for the record, it would have been stupid to stay).
Is it just a vocal minority that's like this or is the majority of the Wyoming fan base a bunch of BYU haters?
Regardless, I look forward to our upcoming games. Go Cougs!
It's more than just a minority who hate BYU. And this is coming from someone who is in favor of playing the series.
Here's a quick rundown of what went down;
BYU went Indy, and then tried to lure some of the programs in the MWC back to the WAC in order to cement long term opponents. And this was right after TCU and Utah left. Which would have left the remaining MWC schools in a similar position to what happened to the WAC. If not for the UNLV AD speaking up about it, schools like Wyoming and the other Front Range schools, would have been bent over the barrel. Hard.
That, combined with generations of constant BYU fan arrogance, yeah.