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Re: 24-25 Roster

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:58 pm
by WYO1016
OrediggerPoke wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:28 pm
WYO1016 wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:25 pm

That's as disingenuous as argument as I've ever seen. 4 of the starting 5 graduated. One graduated with 1 year of eligibility left transferred to get closer to home. The non-graduate that transferred has been widly panned on this board as someone who should not have been starting.

You don't like Linder. We get it. Christ this board has turned into a bunch of whiners.
You have to be kidding. That’s a disingenuous argument… that Linder has caused a yearly roster meltdown which requires 1 year bandaids from the likes Fort Lewis College. None of the guys graduating and out of eligibility played more than 1 year for Wyoming!! How is that disingenuous!?!?
Please point to multiple years of "roster meltdowns". Last season was one, and it was bad. Other than last year roster turnover has been nothing out of the ordinary.

Re: 24-25 Roster

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:02 pm
by WYO1016
WYO1016 wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:58 pm
OrediggerPoke wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:28 pm

You have to be kidding. That’s a disingenuous argument… that Linder has caused a yearly roster meltdown which requires 1 year bandaids from the likes Fort Lewis College. None of the guys graduating and out of eligibility played more than 1 year for Wyoming!! How is that disingenuous!?!?
Please point to multiple years of "roster meltdowns". Last season was one, and it was bad. Other than last year roster turnover has been nothing out of the ordinary.
Actually, let me help you out.

2021
Drew LaMont
Kwame Marble II
Marcus Williams

2022
Ben Bowen
Deng Dut
John Grigsby
Eoin Nelson

We don't need to rehash 2023. We all know what happened.

So far this year it's a guy that didn't play, a guy that didn't play well, and a grad transfer. Hardly a meltdown.

Re: 24-25 Roster

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:07 pm
by laxwyo
It’d be hard to argue against something else going on. Either Linder isn’t afraid to tell players to get the hell out or no one wants to play for him in today’s environment. Some of it is winning too. No incentive to hang around and play on poop team and an asshole coach when you can play for a. poop team and non asshole coach
B.good team and asshole coach
C. Good team with non asshole coach.

To me, there’s no reason Powell should be leaving. Him transferring is a big red flag.

Re: 24-25 Roster

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:32 pm
by bladerunnr
laxwyo wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:07 pm It’d be hard to argue against something else going on. Either Linder isn’t afraid to tell players to get the hell out or no one wants to play for him in today’s environment. Some of it is winning too. No incentive to hang around and play on poop team and an asshole coach when you can play for a. poop team and non asshole coach
B.good team and asshole coach
C. Good team with non asshole coach.

To me, there’s no reason Powell should be leaving. Him transferring is a big red flag.
I would disagree with this. Powell's minutes were going down as the season wore on. In his last 7 games, he played about 15 minutes a game. I actually expected him to leave. I even wonder if the coaches told him his playing time here was done. Since I don't live in Laramie or sit behind the bench, I don't have first hand knowledge that Linder is tough to play for. I'd like to hear this from the players themselves.
Personally, I don't care if the roster turns over a lot. We've had many great players who came from junior colleges - Justin Williams and Dante Richardson, just to name two. The 3 starters who came in for one year were pretty good. We just needed a few more. Had Powell developed, we might have been pretty good. But he was a non factor most of the year.

Re: 24-25 Roster

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:50 pm
by Itsux2beaewe
SDPokeFan wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 12:15 pm
OrediggerPoke wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 7:00 pm Apparently Foster has another year now!?!? Must be an additional medical redshirt.

The recent portal entry could be a numbers game if Foster and Wenzel were to return.
If he returns he could go straight from college basketball to Social Security.
Lol

Re: 24-25 Roster

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:03 pm
by LawPoke
laxwyo wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:07 pm It’d be hard to argue against something else going on. Either Linder isn’t afraid to tell players to get the hell out or no one wants to play for him in today’s environment. Some of it is winning too. No incentive to hang around and play on poop team and an asshole coach when you can play for a. poop team and non asshole coach
B.good team and asshole coach
C. Good team with non asshole coach.

To me, there’s no reason Powell should be leaving. Him transferring is a big red flag.
Powell is no big loss in terms of losing his minutes and talent. He never developed and never will. He doesn’t have it. I appreciate his time as a Cowboy. The transfer raises the question of whether he was asked to leave or whether he saw no future here.

Re: 24-25 Roster

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:06 pm
by stymeman
I liked Powell's potential but he had way too soft hands...oh well, let the rebuild begin...again

Re: 24-25 Roster

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:39 am
by laxwyo
bladerunnr wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:32 pm
laxwyo wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:07 pm It’d be hard to argue against something else going on. Either Linder isn’t afraid to tell players to get the hell out or no one wants to play for him in today’s environment. Some of it is winning too. No incentive to hang around and play on poop team and an asshole coach when you can play for a. poop team and non asshole coach
B.good team and asshole coach
C. Good team with non asshole coach.

To me, there’s no reason Powell should be leaving. Him transferring is a big red flag.
I would disagree with this. Powell's minutes were going down as the season wore on. In his last 7 games, he played about 15 minutes a game. I actually expected him to leave. I even wonder if the coaches told him his playing time here was done. Since I don't live in Laramie or sit behind the bench, I don't have first hand knowledge that Linder is tough to play for. I'd like to hear this from the players themselves.
Personally, I don't care if the roster turns over a lot. We've had many great players who came from junior colleges - Justin Williams and Dante Richardson, just to name two. The 3 starters who came in for one year were pretty good. We just needed a few more. Had Powell developed, we might have been pretty good. But he was a non factor most of the year.
Hard to argue with a lot of what you said. I can’t see Linder telling a serviceable big man to take a hike when his roster is a graveyard. 15 minutes is still playing time and I would expect people like Kojanets to leave before Powell.

Re: 24-25 Roster

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:42 am
by OrediggerPoke
WYO1016 wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:02 pm
WYO1016 wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:58 pm

Please point to multiple years of "roster meltdowns". Last season was one, and it was bad. Other than last year roster turnover has been nothing out of the ordinary.
Actually, let me help you out.

2021
Drew LaMont
Kwame Marble II
Marcus Williams

2022
Ben Bowen
Deng Dut
John Grigsby
Eoin Nelson

We don't need to rehash 2023. We all know what happened.

So far this year it's a guy that didn't play, a guy that didn't play well, and a grad transfer. Hardly a meltdown.
Great, if you believe that recruiting 1 year lower division transfers is not a roster turnover or meltdown, then we should be pretty good next year right? This roster consistency should really propel Wyoming.

Re: 24-25 Roster

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:45 am
by OrediggerPoke
laxwyo wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:39 am
bladerunnr wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:32 pm

I would disagree with this. Powell's minutes were going down as the season wore on. In his last 7 games, he played about 15 minutes a game. I actually expected him to leave. I even wonder if the coaches told him his playing time here was done. Since I don't live in Laramie or sit behind the bench, I don't have first hand knowledge that Linder is tough to play for. I'd like to hear this from the players themselves.
Personally, I don't care if the roster turns over a lot. We've had many great players who came from junior colleges - Justin Williams and Dante Richardson, just to name two. The 3 starters who came in for one year were pretty good. We just needed a few more. Had Powell developed, we might have been pretty good. But he was a non factor most of the year.
Hard to argue with a lot of what you said. I can’t see Linder telling a serviceable big man to take a hike when his roster is a graveyard. 15 minutes is still playing time and I would expect people like Kojanets to leave before Powell.
I agree. Linder didn’t tell Caden Powell to look elsewhere nor was Caden Powell wooed by NIL dollars from other programs being flashed his way. Neither of those things would make any sense. Caden Powell, the only guy who could have transferred last year but didn’t, finally had enough.

Re: 24-25 Roster

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:58 am
by OrediggerPoke
WYO1016 wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:58 pm
OrediggerPoke wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:28 pm

You have to be kidding. That’s a disingenuous argument… that Linder has caused a yearly roster meltdown which requires 1 year bandaids from the likes Fort Lewis College. None of the guys graduating and out of eligibility played more than 1 year for Wyoming!! How is that disingenuous!?!?
Please point to multiple years of "roster meltdowns". Last season was one, and it was bad. Other than last year roster turnover has been nothing out of the ordinary.
Last year. This year. And likely next year.

Re: 24-25 Roster

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:40 pm
by LawPoke
OrediggerPoke wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:58 am
WYO1016 wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:58 pm

Please point to multiple years of "roster meltdowns". Last season was one, and it was bad. Other than last year roster turnover has been nothing out of the ordinary.
Last year. This year. And likely next year.
At this point, I’m a bit concerned that we won’t have five warm bodies to put on the floor.

Playing for Linder must be akin to wiping your hind end with sandpaper.

Re: 24-25 Roster

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:41 pm
by OrediggerPoke
LawPoke wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:40 pm
OrediggerPoke wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:58 am
Last year. This year. And likely next year.
At this point, I’m a bit concerned that we won’t have five warm bodies to put on the floor.

Playing for Linder must be akin to wiping your hind end with sandpaper.
Nah. There are plenty of Yellowstone .gifs and D2 seniors from the likes of Oklahoma Panhandle State to go around. We will have a ‘team.’

Re: 24-25 Roster

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:54 am
by OrediggerPoke
Can we get an update with Combs and Manywau now gone too?

Re: 24-25 Roster

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:22 pm
by Poke in New England
OrediggerPoke wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:54 am Can we get an update with Combs and Manywau now gone too?
Laramie County CC may have some warm bodies for us to take

Re: 24-25 Roster

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:55 pm
by OrediggerPoke
OrediggerPoke wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:49 pm Image
WYO1016 wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:43 pm Jeebus guys. We were in the tournament 2 years ago! Last year was an unmitigated disaster, mostly due to the worst rash on injuries that has ever happened in college basketball. This year, for all intents and purposes, wasn't bad, considering that we turned over the entire roster. R-E-L-A-X
All is still well.

Re: 24-25 Roster

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:06 pm
by stymeman
Ummmm...whoooo???

Re: 24-25 Roster

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 11:56 am
by Itsux2beaewe
OrediggerPoke wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:28 pm
WYO1016 wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:25 pm

That's as disingenuous as argument as I've ever seen. 4 of the starting 5 graduated. One graduated with 1 year of eligibility left transferred to get closer to home. The non-graduate that transferred has been widly panned on this board as someone who should not have been starting.

You don't like Linder. We get it. Christ this board has turned into a bunch of whiners.
You have to be kidding. That’s a disingenuous argument… that Linder has caused a yearly roster meltdown which requires 1 year bandaids from the likes Fort Lewis College. None of the guys graduating and out of eligibility played more than 1 year for Wyoming!! How is that disingenuous!?!?
Wow, 1016 is watching a different movie than me. He’s watching Miracle on Grand, I’m watching horror in the Double AA- the sequel slasher…….

Re: 24-25 Roster

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:24 pm
by OrediggerPoke

Re: 24-25 Roster

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:41 pm
by Itsux2beaewe
OrediggerPoke wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:24 pm
Linder really posted this?