What we expected all along from the sheep
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:19 pm
Last time I checked we did not spend a half billion dollars of public money on a stadium based on the field of dreams premise while on top of it all being at least untruthful about the capacity of that stadium by about 30% only to realize that if they were dealing with the same fan base all alongGoGoPokes wrote:I am as quick as anyone to want to jump on the CSU hater banter, but it is pretty discouraging to see people try to hate on CSU over something that we can't exactly boast about ourselves. Apparently whyoh and onePokeovertheline haven't been to a game in the past 15 years...
We didn't drop a quarter of a billion on a new stadium to boost attendance. We also don't exist in a market of a quarter of a million potential spectators within less than fifty minutes' drive time.ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:01 am In all fairness, 1/2 of 36k is 18k. So, 1/2 of their tickets sold is about equal to our total attendance.
After 1/2 of their crowd left, it was still more than attended the Hawaii game (or at least ballpark).
It sucks, but, with our attendance, there aren't very many teams we can chastise in this regard.
Our stadium literally eclipses its immediate market. Imagine a 9 million seat stadium in nycWyovanian wrote:We didn't drop a quarter of a billion on a new stadium to boost attendance. We also don't exist in a market of a quarter of a million potential spectators within less than fifty minutes' drive time.ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:01 am In all fairness, 1/2 of 36k is 18k. So, 1/2 of their tickets sold is about equal to our total attendance.
After 1/2 of their crowd left, it was still more than attended the Hawaii game (or at least ballpark).
It sucks, but, with our attendance, there aren't very many teams we can chastise in this regard.
When apples are compared to apples, our attendance, while it could improve, beats every other team in the conference when indexed to market.
This is one of the things I hate about boards on the net; I've been to every game since 2015. As stated above, it's more about their arrogance, sold out claims, push for relevance, etc. They're just not who they think they are or who they want to be. Nor are any of our writers calling us a national embarrassment.GoGoPokes wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:38 pm I am as quick as anyone to want to jump on the CSU hater banter, but it is pretty discouraging to see people try to hate on CSU over something that we can't exactly boast about ourselves. Apparently whyoh and onePokeovertheline haven't been to a game in the past 15 years...
Perhaps. I guess the argument could be made that attendance dollars returned per dollar spent on stadium is greatly in our favor. I'm not sure that is the direction i support, but I certainly agree it is correct. We could skew it even more in our favor by playing at LHS.Wyovanian wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:29 am We didn't drop a quarter of a billion on a new stadium to boost attendance. We also don't exist in a market of a quarter of a million potential spectators within less than fifty minutes' drive time.
When apples are compared to apples, our attendance, while it could improve, beats every other team in the conference when indexed to market.
+1ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:17 pmPerhaps. I guess the argument could be made that attendance dollars returned per dollar spent on stadium is greatly in our favor. I'm not sure that is the direction i support, but I certainly agree it is correct. We could skew it even more in our favor by playing at LHS.Wyovanian wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:29 am We didn't drop a quarter of a billion on a new stadium to boost attendance. We also don't exist in a market of a quarter of a million potential spectators within less than fifty minutes' drive time.
When apples are compared to apples, our attendance, while it could improve, beats every other team in the conference when indexed to market.
I get the per capita attendance, indexing against market, or whatever. However, I do wonder how we index against market when the entire market is considered (competing entertainment options for example).
I guess I just fall in the camp of all that doesn't matter. Just as all our limitations might be true, all that matters are the wins and losses. At the end of the day, they get nearly double the people we get.
Make no mistake, I despise the sheep and I think we have a lot more going for us. I think their p5 delusions are hilarious, but our attendance limitations makes it throwing stones in a glass house when dishing attendance smack.