Pacific

Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:18 pm

With the success of the FB team, it seems like the basketball OOC is passing quickly and it is already time for the Pokes to hit the road and take on Pacific and Cal for a West Coast swing.

Looking at Pacific and I think that game will be much harder than I thought prior to the season. They were not great a year ago (8-20), but they made a coaching change in the offseason and it seems to be working.

Damon Stoudamire is the head coach now and while they are 1-2, a deeper look reveals a very competive team. They lost at UCLA, not a big deal. They lost on the road at UC-Irvine who is pretty good (UCI took Cal to OT) in a very close game and they beat a good Green Bay program by 18 in Stockton.

The coaching staff for Pacific is of some interest to Wyoming fans. Other than having a well known ex-player as a Head Coach, their coaching staff includes Leonard Perry (recently departed from Eustachy's staff at CSU), Jaydee Luster (former Poke) and Luke Wicks (Wyoming native).

I think this will be the Pokes biggest challenge to date. A split on this road trip would be very good IMO.

Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:45 am

NowherePoke wrote:Other than having a well known ex-player as a Head Coach, their coaching staff includes Leonard Perry (recently departed from Eustachy's staff at CSU), Jaydee Luster (former Poke) and Luke Wicks (Wyoming native).

Played college ball over here in my neck of the woods. Actually, he played for arguably my alma mater's biggest rival...and my brother laced up against him in a couple of Wicks' four years. Heck of a player!

Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:52 am

Direct link for tomorrow's stream (GoWyo.com will also have it via the GameCenter): https://livestream.com/accounts/11394379/events/6580872

Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:19 am

^Thanks for posting stream!

Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:48 am

I liked Jaydee Luster

Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:56 pm

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The Wyoming Cowboys are not highly touted but here they are at 3-0 which might be a sign of things to come or just a good start. The Cowboys come off a 77-67 victory against visiting South Dakota State on Saturday where a 41-32 second half run broke open a close game. The Cowboys won the battle of marksmanship 44%-34.5% with a few more baskets and free throws winning it. The Cowboys received a game high 24 points and eight rebounds from Mike Daum on 7-10 from the floor with Chris Howell and Reed Tellinghuisen adding 12 and eleven points respectively with the latter hauling in eight rebounds.

http://sportschatplace.com/college-bask ... FMODPbu.99

Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:05 pm

Oh man we're missing out!
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Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:08 pm

LanderPoke wrote:I liked Jaydee Luster

For your taste in PGs, this surprises me

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Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:10 pm

laxwyo wrote:
LanderPoke wrote:I liked Jaydee Luster
For your taste in PGs, this surprises me

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Jaydee could defend like a mutherfocker. He was lightning quick, super athletic, could drive the lane at will and dish to teammates. All things Lieberman can't do.

Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:34 pm

LanderPoke wrote:
laxwyo wrote:
LanderPoke wrote:I liked Jaydee Luster
For your taste in PGs, this surprises me

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Jaydee could defend like a mutherfocker. He was lightning quick, super athletic, could drive the lane at will and dish to teammates. All things Lieberman can't do.

Jaydee could defend. No doubt about that. He made himself a pain the ass for opposing ball handlers. As far as the rest of it though I think time has distorted your view of Luster. He was not that proficient at getting in the lane and even less proficient at generating offense from it because he wasn't a threat to finish and didn't suck in the defense to a great degree. He did create some offense, but not much. His presence also limited the offense since he didn't need to be guarded beyond the 3-point line.

I don't mean to criticize Luster, I enjoyed his effort, but his game had some serious limitations.

Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:42 pm

I still haven't seen a reason why Lieberman and Kelley won't play big minutes this year.

Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:43 pm

What nowhere said. I remember great D. Not much else. Drive into the lane and have to shoot the ball straight up or it'd get rejected. He has good ball handling skills but I'd be curious to see his assist to TO ratio. That being said, I really liked him and he was scrappy as hell

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Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:50 pm

Cowboy Junky wrote:I still haven't seen a reason why Lieberman and Kelley won't play big minutes this year.

They'll play big minutes because we don't have anyone better.....yet! Next year we're going to be loaded

Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:23 pm

joshvanklomp wrote:Find what's wrong with this preview:

The Wyoming Cowboys are not highly touted but here they are at 3-0 which might be a sign of things to come or just a good start. The Cowboys come off a 77-67 victory against visiting South Dakota State on Saturday where a 41-32 second half run broke open a close game. The Cowboys won the battle of marksmanship 44%-34.5% with a few more baskets and free throws winning it. The Cowboys received a game high 24 points and eight rebounds from Mike Daum on 7-10 from the floor with Chris Howell and Reed Tellinghuisen adding 12 and eleven points respectively with the latter hauling in eight rebounds.

http://sportschatplace.com/college-bask ... FMODPbu.99

It would seem they have placed Daum, Howell, and Tellinghuisen on Wyoming's team....welcome kids

Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:24 pm

LanderPoke wrote:
Cowboy Junky wrote:I still haven't seen a reason why Lieberman and Kelley won't play big minutes this year.
They'll play big minutes because we don't have anyone better.....yet! Next year we're going to be loaded

I think Kelley's minutes are a product of the early schedule, the injury to Adams, and the injury to Marshall.

He'll still get minutes this year, if our ball handlers are injured or in foul trouble, but I'm guessing our rotation for the season will be nine guys. I think Kelley will play when we need a ball handler and none are available due to injuries/fouls. Marshall will play when none of our athletic smalls are available due to injuries/fouls. Barnes will play when we play teams with big physical posts.

Lieberman, Gorski, McManimal, Herndon, Naughton, James, Adams, Dalton, and Moemeka.

I think that's our rotation by conference season.

Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:07 pm

Honestly, all I remember about Luster was pulling my hair out because our offense was beyond inefficient when he was on the floor. Opposing teams packed the paint against us because he was treated like a center on the perimeter. I literally remember games where the guy who was guarding JayDee would be in the paint when Luster was top of the key. Teams would often leave him completely unguarded on the arc, and thus would have 5 on 4 advantage on everyone else, particularly Adam Waddell and Leonard Washington down low.

Wasn't much of a surprise when the team after JayDee left, was a light-years better offensive team with Gilmore running the point. That was the team that was undefeated and ranked 25th before the infamous bar fight debacle and subsequent derailment.

Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:09 pm

Cowboy Junky wrote:
LanderPoke wrote:
Cowboy Junky wrote:I still haven't seen a reason why Lieberman and Kelley won't play big minutes this year.
They'll play big minutes because we don't have anyone better.....yet! Next year we're going to be loaded
I think Kelley's minutes are a product of the early schedule, the injury to Adams, and the injury to Marshall.

He'll still get minutes this year, if our ball handlers are injured or in foul trouble, but I'm guessing our rotation for the season will be nine guys. I think Kelley will play when we need a ball handler and none are available due to injuries/fouls. Marshall will play when none of our athletic smalls are available due to injuries/fouls. Barnes will play when we play teams with big physical posts.

Lieberman, Gorski, McManimal, Herndon, Naughton, James, Adams, Dalton, and Moemeka.

I think that's our rotation by conference season.

Anyone know anything yet on Adams status? Also what's the Marshall injury you mention?

Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:23 pm

FarmerPoke wrote:
Cowboy Junky wrote:
LanderPoke wrote:
Cowboy Junky wrote:I still haven't seen a reason why Lieberman and Kelley won't play big minutes this year.
They'll play big minutes because we don't have anyone better.....yet! Next year we're going to be loaded
I think Kelley's minutes are a product of the early schedule, the injury to Adams, and the injury to Marshall.

He'll still get minutes this year, if our ball handlers are injured or in foul trouble, but I'm guessing our rotation for the season will be nine guys. I think Kelley will play when we need a ball handler and none are available due to injuries/fouls. Marshall will play when none of our athletic smalls are available due to injuries/fouls. Barnes will play when we play teams with big physical posts.

Lieberman, Gorski, McManimal, Herndon, Naughton, James, Adams, Dalton, and Moemeka.

I think that's our rotation by conference season.
Anyone know anything yet on Adams status? Also what's the Marshall injury you mention?

Marshall had some kind of shin splints or ankle tweek, something like that has been keeping him out: a nagging injury.

Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:37 pm

Pokes are a two point dog tonight which I don't necessarily disagree with. Pacific has not been scintillating on the offensive end so far (FG% or FT%-wise), though, so if the Pokes play solid team defense and hit the boards, they have a good shot to grab a road W. The Tigers have allowed two of their three opponents to shoot over 50% from the field, also.

Another good test to grow as a team tonight. Grab a dub, Pokes.

Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:42 pm

joshvanklomp wrote:Direct link for tomorrow's stream (GoWyo.com will also have it via the GameCenter): https://livestream.com/accounts/11394379/events/6580872

18 minutes from tip.....the video link is live