The National Champions Hang their Banner

Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:14 pm

http://www.espn.com/college-football/st ... hip-banner

The only true champion is...........UCF!

Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:29 pm

Good for them. The system is rigged. Whatever gets people talking and thinking

Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:37 pm

There is no logical argument to deny UCF as champions. Any argument of "well they wouldn't have been able to do that in a better conference" is nothing but pure subjective speculation. UCF won every game on its schedule and beat the team that beat both teams playing for the National Championship...pretty straight forward.

Went from one of the worst teams in college football to National Champions in 2 years. Pretty amazing.

Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:40 pm

Almost makes you wonder if Frost should have just stayed there?

Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:12 pm

I think the whole thing is a joke. UCF doesn't deserve to hang a national championship banner. We need a 8 team playoff where they would have had a chance. Not champs

For the record I won't be watching the sec title game either... the whole system isn't just a dumpster fire it's the whole dump. Go pokes

Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:24 pm

Why not,they have an argument for it. Tons of schools went back in history books to claim titles that they have displayed in their stadiums ( looking at you Alabama). I am pretty sure Alabama claims one in which they weren't AP champ and even lossed to Notre Dame in a bowl game ( sugar bowl maybe?). This is classic college football antics and it makes it great.

Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:00 pm

poke_addict wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:12 pm UCF doesn't deserve to hang a national championship banner.

Explain why not? With today's subjective P5 system of picking the final 4 to the CFP (one which UCF didn't choose), UCF could not possibly win a CFP. UCF won every game on its schedule and beat the team which beat both the teams playing for the championship game of the CFP.

By all objective measures, UCF is the National Champion. I hope their banner is massive.

Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:19 pm

Okie State just got their "1945 National Championship" a few months ago which, I won't lie, I laughed my ass off!!!! You now get an "official" championship from the end of WWII???!!! Ah...O.K.

As I keep saying almost everywhere on the 'Net...Nothing...Absolutely NOTHING surprises me!!!!!

Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:17 pm

OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:00 pm
poke_addict wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:12 pm UCF doesn't deserve to hang a national championship banner.
Explain why not? With today's subjective P5 system of picking the final 4 to the CFP (one which UCF didn't choose), UCF could not possibly win a CFP. UCF won every game on its schedule and beat the team which beat both the teams playing for the championship game of the CFP.

By all objective measures, UCF is the National Champion. I hope their banner is massive.

Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:19 pm

OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:37 pm There is no logical argument to deny UCF as champions. Any argument of "well they wouldn't have been able to do that in a better conference" is nothing but pure subjective speculation. UCF won every game on its schedule and beat the team that beat both teams playing for the National Championship...pretty straight forward.

Went from one of the worst teams in college football to National Champions in 2 years. Pretty amazing.

Other than them not playing for the championship

Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:31 pm

So they beat a unmotivated Auburn team they deserve a championship? Look if you haven't realized there has NEVER been a legitimate national champion at the highest level of collegiate football then I don't know what to say. UCF isn't even close to the first team that went undefeated and wasn't awarded the crown.

The entire thing is a massive joke and a slap in the face to every college football fan in the country. I will agree they deserve a spot to battle it out. Look if Wyoming were in the same shoes I would legitimately be embarrassed. Boise and Utah never acted like children claiming what they were not.

It will never be right until at least 8 teams battle it out. Until then it's a joke!!!

Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:02 pm

TCU was probably snubbed just as hard as Utah and Boise... and yeah, they too didn't hang up a banner.

Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:14 pm

Were Boise, TCU, and Utah the only undefeated during there seasons?

Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:29 pm

marcuswyo wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:14 pm Were Boise, TCU, and Utah the only undefeated during there seasons?

Utah went undefeated and beat Texas A&M, North Carolina and Arizona by at least two touchdowns each. Boise routinely scheduled and beat quality P5 teams.

Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:57 pm

But they weren't the only undefeated teams during their seasons, UCF was. Any other decade a team would claim a title if they were the only undefeated team left with beating a top sec team in a bowl. There was also collusion to keep them ranked low, so they had no path in. It is a great for college football for them to stir up some controversy.

Also wyoming should claim 1895 and 1897 as national titles. I think an Ivy League school did this recently. We were 2-0 those years. Or 1950, won the most games(10-0).

Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:24 pm

poke_addict wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:31 pm
It will never be right until at least 8 teams battle it out. Until then it's a joke!!!

They still wouldn't have got in being ranked at #12

Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:06 pm

BJC wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:24 pm
poke_addict wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:31 pm
It will never be right until at least 8 teams battle it out. Until then it's a joke!!!
They still wouldn't have got in being ranked at #12

Not with automatic qualification

Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:35 pm

poke_addict wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:06 pm
BJC wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:24 pm
poke_addict wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:31 pm
It will never be right until at least 8 teams battle it out. Until then it's a joke!!!
They still wouldn't have got in being ranked at #12
Not with automatic qualification

Automatic qualification would most years guarantee that the G5 representative faces the top seed right away. Hardly better than the hat-tip the G5 currently gets with a spot in the NY6 bowls.

Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:40 pm

Poke in New England wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:35 pm
poke_addict wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:06 pm
BJC wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:24 pm
poke_addict wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:31 pm
It will never be right until at least 8 teams battle it out. Until then it's a joke!!!
They still wouldn't have got in being ranked at #12
Not with automatic qualification
Automatic qualification would most years guarantee that the G5 representative faces the top seed right away. Hardly better than the hat-tip the G5 currently gets with a spot in the NY6 bowls.

It would be way better are you kidding. If you want to win a championship you will most likely have to beat them anyway. We are looking for a legitimate chance not hand outs.

Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:59 pm

Anyone who thinks we compete on the same level as the P5 or will someday have a chance at some hypothetical P5 playoff is delusional. Even in an 8 team playoff UCF would not have gotten a spot and no they are not giving a non P5 team an automatic qualification.