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There shouldn't be any respect for it either until we prove otherwise.

If I was them I wouldn't respect it either.

When you give up over 30 ppg that is atrocious.

Also with as good as their offensive line is and them going up against Michigan and Ohio St. defensive lines i doubt Wyoming's defensive line will scare them.

If the Wyoming defense wants respect they will have to earn it.
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seattlecowboy wrote:There shouldn't be any respect for it either until we prove otherwise.

If I was them I wouldn't respect it either.

When you give up over 30 ppg that is atrocious.

Also with as good as their offensive line is and them going up against Michigan and Ohio St. defensive lines i doubt Wyoming's defensive line will scare them.

If the Wyoming defense wants respect they will have to earn it.
Yup. Doesn't matter if they respect it or not. Matters if we stop the run and sack the QB


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Well, Iowa fans must be fairly good with common sense then.

I don't respect our D, either.

.....yet.
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Add me to the list of Pokes fans who are taking a "wait and see" approach in regards to how good our defense is.

Yes, I think we have talent and promise.
No, they haven't proven a thing yet, and last year's defense got shredded several times.
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Iowa like Michigan State play a brand of power football I hope us to reach and what we have historically been. They have top end lineman and very good RB with a stout defense. This game is a good measuring stick for our toughness and athleticism. If we hold our own and show we are capable of sticking people I'll be happy win or lose.
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wyoair wrote: Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:07 am If we hold our own and show we are capable of sticking people I'll be happy win or lose.
I'm in the same seat - AND I'm going to add that I'll also hope Allen can stay healthy and avoid dirty hits. He's going to have a giant target painted on him due to being hyped for next year's draft. Nothing to get a scout's attention like laying a big hit on a potential #1 draft pick.
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We gave up massive yardage and 50-70 points while taking losses to college football juggernauts like EMU, UNM, and UNLV. I'm pretty sure our own players know that's not good enough. There's no surprise that Iowa fans don't respect us.

Do I think the defense will be much better with Hazelton, more d line and secondary depth, more speed, and more size on the field? Yeah, we should be better. We have potential all-Americans on all three levels of defense.

Stylistically, we couldn't defend read option teams, but we did pretty well against power teams. I would consider Iowa a power rushing team.

Wyoming has to earn peoples respect. They aren't just going to give it to us especially after stinking up the field against historical football turds like UNLV, UNM, and EMU.
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I doubt they've really dug deep into what types off offenses Wyoming has struggled and succeeded against. Meaning they're just looking at last year's point totals and judging. In that case, I wouldn't respect Wyoming's defense either. Anyone who concedes 66 points to UNLV in football and not basketball is quite a ways away from dominance.
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Then again, our D played really stout in many games including BSU, Nebraska and SDSU. Nebraskas didn't look great but 5 INTS will do that to any defense. I don't get how EMU and UNLV could score so much on us.


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laxwyo wrote: Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:54 am Then again, our D played really stout in many games including BSU, Nebraska and SDSU. Nebraskas didn't look great but 5 INTS will do that to any defense. I don't get how EMU and UNLV could score so much on us.


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Even then; 52, 28, 33 points conceded isn't exactly reminiscent of the 85' Bears, no? This defense still has some work to do before it commands respect. Pieces are in place to make that jump this year, but I don't blame Hawkeye fans for not being impressed with the defensive numbers from last season.

That said, their offensive style plays into Bohl's hands. I don't think the defense will be a problem for every Wyoming opponent, but they might border on annoying vs. Iowa.
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Count me in the cautiously optimistic camp as well. We didn't do too bad against power teams, but couldn't diagnose a read option to save our lives last season. A year of maturity, new coordinator and hopefully some lessons learned should help.
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laxwyo wrote: Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:54 am I don't get how EMU and UNLV could score so much on us.
My guess is that Bohl and company underestimated them and got thoroughly outcoached (a rare occurrence, admittedly)
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Adv8RU12 wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2017 1:10 pm
laxwyo wrote: Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:54 am I don't get how EMU and UNLV could score so much on us.
My guess is that Bohl and company underestimated them and got thoroughly outcoached (a rare occurrence, admittedly)
I thought they may have under estimated EMU and UNLV, but by the time they got to UNM they understood that Stanard was completely incompetent at preparing to face a spread read option.

It will be interesting to see how this season turns out, because our fan base, players, and coaches all know that we haven't stopped a shotgun read option attack ONE TIME since Bohl took over.

Until we do, we won't have confidence against that scheme.

Hopefully this year we'll be able to stop the juggernaut offenses at UNM, UNLV, and EMU. :cool:
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I can't get the New Mexico game out of my head. I've never seen a defense get shredded like that. It literally looked at times like Wyoming had three defenders on the field.
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